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[Mach]

I think it would have been perfect.

Most people are saying if they were to break it it should have been used to put someone young over, but the favorite example is Roman Reigns or someone like that.

We pointed out earlier in the thread that that could actually risk killing his heat because he's ending the favorite's streak and now he might get booed.

But with Wyatt it'd make sense both in his character and in putting him over.

Facing him against Cena they almost painted themselves into a corner because they made the storyline about Cena's legacy not getting killed and now he almost has to win even though that screws with Bray's steam. Plus, they're still pushing Bray as a heel but since he's against Cena naturally half the crowd cheers him just because he's against Cena. Add that to the people who cheer because they're smarks and like his character and the boos aren't as loud as they should be.

Put him against Taker and let him not give a shit about Taker's mind games because he plays his own, then he does the unthinkable and now you have a super villain.

Is Wyatt a long term top talent though? Is he ready for a perm spot at the top of the card? If you're not sure both those answers are yes, you can't pull the trigger. For comparison's sake, Brock is an easy yes to both despite his passion being iffy

[Trendy Bastard]

It should have been Cena while turning heel.

Brock fucking Lesnar though.

[Mach]

Yeah, but Cena's not turning heel, so we're stuck with SuperShittyCena.

[Witlon]

The absolute shock/horror makes me not doubt that it was the right move. In these days where everything is spoiled, it was utterly awesome to see the entire crowd lose their shit over it.

[Trendy Bastard]

The absolute shock/horror makes me not doubt that it was the right move. In these days where everything is spoiled, it was utterly awesome to see the entire crowd lose their shit over it.

I disagree. They could have done it with just about anyone else and I would have been OK with it. Cena, Punk, Bryan, Wyatt, Reigns, Sting..

Cena w/ the turn just makes the most sense to me. Try and pull another Hogan. Fuck tshirt sales.

[Witlon]

Cena's already a heel to half the audience, anyway, why change anything and ruin their good press with the Make-A-Wish stuff?

I know he'd be interesting with character tweaks, but I doubt I'm going to start liking him right away with a heel turn, anyway.

[HollywoodLeo]

I disagree. They could have done it with just about anyone else and I would have been OK with it. Cena, Punk, Bryan, Wyatt, Reigns, Sting..

Cena w/ the turn just makes the most sense to me. Try and pull another Hogan. Fuck tshirt sales.

Cena with a turn makes a lot of sense for storytelling purposes, but so long as "Hustle, Loyalty, and Respect" draws money it'll never make business sense to turn him. Especially when they don't have any viable competition like they did in the Attitude Era.

Turning Hogan made sense for WCW primarily because of the shock value that drew attention away from the WWE. Who is Vince going to draw attention away from by turning Cena? TNA? He already has the market's attention, so the T-Shirt sales are what matter most.

Sting seems like a nice idea in theory, but do you really think Vince is going to let Taker end the streak to the biggest wrestling legend to have yet step foot in one of his rings?

[Mach]

I think WCW was ahead of the WWF anyway at that point.

[HollywoodLeo]

I think WCW was ahead of the WWF anyway at that point.

I don't think they were. The nWo is what got them over and turning Hogan was the culmination of that.

I mean, the Outsiders coming in and hinting at "the third man" was beginning to draw attention, but Hogan being that third man pushed it over the top.

And even if it was already there I doubt they maintain it as long as they did if the payoff wasn't that big.

[Mach]

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[Trendy Bastard]

Well get some fucking competition in here already. I miss wrestling.

[Hammer]

Is Wyatt a long term top talent though? Is he ready for a perm spot at the top of the card? If you're not sure both those answers are yes, you can't pull the trigger. For comparison's sake, Brock is an easy yes to both despite his passion being iffy

im fairly certain the answer to both those questions is a yes. id have put my faith in him.

[Witlon]

Bray has been in my top 2 matches of the year(star rating wise)...I'm sold he's going to go far, as well.

[Foster]

What's your top 2?

Cause he's in one of mine as well. The 6 man tag from Raw a couple weeks ago. Sheild -v- Wyatt's.

[Witlon]

Bryan/Bray from the Rumble and Shield/Wyatts from Elimination Chamber.

Edit: The 3 Sheild/Wyatt matches are all awesome. ***3/4 to ****1/4 for me, but I like EC the best.