Official WWE/TNA/ROH Thread

[Slyder]

I feel like John Cena could put on a legitimate match of the year and you'd find a way to talk about how it ruins the whole show for the next two months straight.

I dislike him as much as the next guy but having a bunch of open challenge matches in the mid-card is hardly ruining the entire product.

That's not to say there aren't other factors, but it doesn't all culminate from John Cena beating Stardust in a US Title match.

Its why I take these sabbaticals, I don't like how the midcard belts have been handled for years and just throwing out one and done matches IMO isn't going to change perception and the fact that Cena comes out and does the same thing every week just grades on me cause he continues to be the same guy after a decade. I need a break from it.

[HollywoodLeo]

Then why even come back? Every time you come back John Cena is going to be the same person.

The great thing about wrestling is that no matter what's going on with one angle there are unrelated angles going on concurrently.

And I have to disagree with you that this is ruining the US Title. I mean, don't get me wrong, it's nothing exciting...but it's still a million times better than what they've done with it prior, which typically entailed somebody carrying it around like an after thought never defending it.

[Hammer]

yea, this is the best thing theyve done for the us title since mvp held it. its defended on a weekly basis, by the biggest guy in the company. whenever he does eventually drop it... if he ever does, admittedly... major rub for whoever gets the win. especially if it does eventually lead to unification with bryan at summerslam.

[Slyder]

Then why even come back? Every time you come back John Cena is going to be the same person.

The great thing about wrestling is that no matter what's going on with one angle there are unrelated angles going on concurrently.

And I have to disagree with you that this is ruining the US Title. I mean, don't get me wrong, it's nothing exciting...but it's still a million times better than what they've done with it prior, which typically entailed somebody carrying it around like an after thought never defending it.

I didn't say this was ruining the US or IC Title, its a continuation of the same old stuff (very little story, match after match after match, etc). I don't want to turn away completely because there is a number of guys I really like (Wyatt, the Shield trio, Ryback). I just need to take a sabbatical from seeing Cena.

[HollywoodLeo]

I didn't say this was ruining the US or IC Title, its a continuation of the same old stuff (very little story, match after match after match, etc). I don't want to turn away completely because there is a number of guys I really like (Wyatt, the Shield trio, Ryback). I just need to take a sabbatical from seeing Cena.

Then use the fast-forward button like I do and move on.

Problem solved.

[Slyder]

I don't have DVR. I'll just turn on Family Guy/American Dad whichevers on TBS when he comes on the screen.

[HollywoodLeo]

There's always the mute button.

I'm just saying you don't have to turn away from the entire program just because of 20 minutes of the show.

(If the rest of the booking pushes you that way it's legit, but that's not what you've been saying in here)

[Slyder]

There's always the mute button.

I'm just saying you don't have to turn away from the entire program just because of 20 minutes of the show.

(If the rest of the booking pushes you that way it's legit, but that's not what you've been saying in here)

Thats what I'm saying. I'll just change the channel until Cena's segment of the night is over .

[Witlon]

Cena/Stardust was actually hovering around ***1/4 in a vacuum. It's bad Cody has no heat in the gimmick (and has been jobbing in 3 minutes to Ambrose for the last month), because it could've been even better if the crowd cared.

[HollywoodLeo]

I actually kinda like the Stardust gimmick.

I hated it at first but it's grown on me.

[HollywoodLeo]

As an aside, now that they've split can we please quit pretending his name is Damien Mizdow and give him back his normal music? (or at least his own different music)

[Witlon]

As an aside, now that they've split can we please quit pretending his name is Damien Mizdow and give him back his normal music? (or at least his own different music)

The feud that's been predicated on Sandow never having any success before Miz (and anything he did do, like winning MITB isn't even brought up) probably is going to end with them fighting over the Miz name, sadly enough. Of course, last night could've been the blowoff and 'Mizdow' could be having matches with Adam Rose on Superstars next week and completely forgotten about.

[Slyder]

As an aside, now that they've split can we please quit pretending his name is Damien Mizdow and give him back his normal music? (or at least his own different music)

I was hoping for this feud... Maybe not all new (or his old music) but like the same tune except except with a slight variation to it.

[Slyder]

Cena/Stardust was actually hovering around ***1/4 in a vacuum. It's bad Cody has no heat in the gimmick (and has been jobbing in 3 minutes to Ambrose for the last month), because it could've been even better if the crowd cared.

I think they cut Gold/Stardust too short. It needed more time to really get the character going as a singles competitor and his persona to really take hold. I find myself conflicted but I found myself wishing Mania had another match. Which would have been better Miz/Mizdow or Stardust/Golddust. The old school side says the Dust Brothers should have been it but watching the now feels Miz/Mizdow should have been.

[Witlon]

Just my opinion, but...

They should've just blown off Cody/Goldust last year when both were hot. It's not like they did anything in 2014 worth keeping them together.

Mizdow should've won the battle royal instead of Big Show, to kick off their feud.