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  • Alex Rodriguez, NYY (.332 BA, 28 HRs, 77 RBIs)

    14 58.33%
  • Magglio Ordonez, DET (.377 BA, 13 HRs, 68 RBIs)

    5 20.83%
  • Vlad Guerrero, ANA (.331, 14 HRs, 69 RBIs)

    1 4.17%
  • Ichiro Suzuki, SEA (.362 BA, 112 H, 22 SBs)

    0 0%
  • Dan Haren, OAK (9-2, 1.91 ERA, 93 Ks, 29 BB, .94 WHIP)

    3 12.50%
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Thread: Strike 3's AL MVP.....

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    Re: Strike 3's AL MVP.....

    Ichiro's a legitimate MVP candidate. On internet forums, people like myself have a tendancy to lower the value of BA, and it has a fair amount of value. Hell, his BA would be a good OBP.

    Ichiro's still a beast. Don't think he's on the level of A-Rod/Mags, but still beast
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    Re: Strike 3's AL MVP.....

    Dan Haren should not win it over A-Rod but screw that, DAN HAREN BABY

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    Re: Strike 3's AL MVP.....

    Anyone who thinks Morneau didn't deserve it is fooling only themselves. But for this year, I am going with Magglio Ordonez. He is doing everything right this year and has been the backbone to that Detroit team.

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    Re: Strike 3's AL MVP.....

    Quote Originally Posted by love_that_reefer View Post
    Anyone who thinks Morneau didn't deserve it is fooling only themselves.
    Player A:
    BA: .347
    OBP: .429
    SLG: .507
    Team: Playoffs (R1)
    Position: Catcher

    Player B:
    BA: .321
    OBP: .375
    SLG: .559
    Team: Playoffs (R1)
    Position: First Base

    Player C:
    BA: .320
    OBP: .400
    SLG: .519
    Team: Playoffs (WS)
    Position: SS

    Player D:
    BA: .321
    OBP: .439
    SLG: .619
    Team: Not Playoffs (+.500 WP)
    Position: LF

    Player E:
    BA: .287
    OBP: .413
    SLG: .636
    Team: Not Playoffs (+.500 WP)
    Position: DH

    Player F:
    BA: .329
    OBP: .382
    SLG: .552
    Team: Not Playoffs (+.500 WP)
    Position: RF

    Player G:
    BA: .344
    OBP: .417
    SLG: .483
    Team: Playoffs (R1)
    Position: SS

    Player H:
    BA: .315
    OBP: .385
    SLG: .622
    Team: Not Playoffs (+.500 WP)
    Position: RF

    Player I:
    BA: .308
    OBP: .439
    SLG: .659
    Team: Not Playoffs (-.500 WP)
    Position: DH

    Player J:
    ERA: 2.77
    IP: 234
    WHIP: 1.00
    Team: Playoffs (R1)
    Position: SP

    So, why exactly does Player B deserve it over Player A, and C-J? And if you say "because his team made the playoffs", I won't take you seriously until you admit Barry Bonds wasn't the MVP of the league in 1993, 2001, and 2004.
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    Re: Strike 3's AL MVP.....

    No because he lifted his team offensively and you admit that he deserved it just as much as everyone else. Bonds was a no doubter and kept his team in contention until the last week. I don't buy into the "making it into the playoffs" jive. If a guy keeps a team in contention, he is deserving too. Morneau got hot and the Twins got on his back. So shhhhhhh

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    Re: Strike 3's AL MVP.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishercat View Post
    Player A:
    BA: .347
    OBP: .429
    SLG: .507
    Team: Playoffs (R1)
    Position: Catcher

    Player B:
    BA: .321
    OBP: .375
    SLG: .559
    Team: Playoffs (R1)
    Position: First Base

    Player C:
    BA: .320
    OBP: .400
    SLG: .519
    Team: Playoffs (WS)
    Position: SS

    Player D:
    BA: .321
    OBP: .439
    SLG: .619
    Team: Not Playoffs (+.500 WP)
    Position: LF

    Player E:
    BA: .287
    OBP: .413
    SLG: .636
    Team: Not Playoffs (+.500 WP)
    Position: DH

    Player F:
    BA: .329
    OBP: .382
    SLG: .552
    Team: Not Playoffs (+.500 WP)
    Position: RF

    Player G:
    BA: .344
    OBP: .417
    SLG: .483
    Team: Playoffs (R1)
    Position: SS

    Player H:
    BA: .315
    OBP: .385
    SLG: .622
    Team: Not Playoffs (+.500 WP)
    Position: RF

    Player I:
    BA: .308
    OBP: .439
    SLG: .659
    Team: Not Playoffs (-.500 WP)
    Position: DH

    Player J:
    ERA: 2.77
    IP: 234
    WHIP: 1.00
    Team: Playoffs (R1)
    Position: SP

    So, why exactly does Player B deserve it over Player A, and C-J? And if you say "because his team made the playoffs", I won't take you seriously until you admit Barry Bonds wasn't the MVP of the league in 1993, 2001, and 2004.
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    Re: Strike 3's AL MVP.....

    Quote Originally Posted by love_that_reefer View Post
    Morneau got hot and the Twins got on his back. So shhhhhhh
    As well as the collective backs of Santana and Liriano and Mauer.
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    Re: Strike 3's AL MVP.....

    David Ortiz imo should have won the MVP in 06, he was destroying the ball all year, but since it was clear it wasn't going to be a DH, Morneau was my pick to win the MVP, after looking at all the position players. Ortiz finishing 3rd in voting was a shame.

    1B or DH, imo it barely matters, poor defensive players get stick in LF or 1B in the end. Manny can win the MVP playing shit poor defense in LF but Ortiz can't win it because of a rule allowed by Major League Baseball?

    And playoffs shouldn't have matter, it didn't for A-Rod with Texas (who did deserve it), after that was the case, you have to throw that out reason.
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    Re: Strike 3's AL MVP.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Halladay_is_God View Post
    David Ortiz imo should have won the MVP in 06, he was destroying the ball all year, but since it was clear it wasn't going to be a DH, Morneau was my pick to win the MVP, after looking at all the position players. Ortiz finishing 3rd in voting was a shame.

    1B or DH, imo it barely matters, poor defensive players get stick in LF or 1B in the end. Manny can win the MVP playing shit poor defense in LF but Ortiz can't win it because of a rule allowed by Major League Baseball?

    And playoffs shouldn't have matter, it didn't for A-Rod with Texas (who did deserve it), after that was the case, you have to throw that out reason.
    Exactly, if your going to use defense against guys who play DH, 1B, then you cant give the MVP to pitchers either, since they cant hit either, also they only play once every 5 games.


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    Re: Strike 3's AL MVP.....

    Morneau was the best player in all of baseball when the Twins made their run. Liriano was gone for two months, Mauer got the hits and Morneau drove him in. Even Mauer said he was the MVP.

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    Re: Strike 3's AL MVP.....

    Quote Originally Posted by love_that_reefer View Post
    Morneau was the best player in all of baseball when the Twins made their run. Liriano was gone for two months, Mauer got the hits and Morneau drove him in. Even Mauer said he was the MVP.
    OK, I split the 2006 stats into a subsection

    A. Post-ASB (when the Twins made most of their run)
    B. Minimum of 200 PAs (more than a part-time player)
    C. Sorted by OPS
    D. AL Only

    Care to guess where Justin Morneau ranks on that list? Hint, it's not first.

    Just so you all don't have to go look it up, it was 15th. The following players were ahead of him

    Ortiz, Hafner, Guerrero, Cano, Sexson, Teixeira, Guillen, Teahen, Dye, Thomas, Norton, Thome, Sizemore, A. Rodriguez

    Other stats. BA (5th), OBP (12th), SLG (20th), HR (T-27), RBI (who he drove in) (4th, 2nd on his own team).
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  12. #27

    Re: Strike 3's AL MVP.....

    Quote Originally Posted by love_that_reefer View Post
    No because he lifted his team offensively and you admit that he deserved it just as much as everyone else.
    I wouldn't admit that because I would be wrong.
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    Re: Strike 3's AL MVP.....

    Morneau batted .362 with 23 homers and 92 RBI after June 7th when they started their run and was the biggest reason the Twins made it to the playoffs. To deny that is just plain stupidity. He deserved it and got it and only won by 14 points. That goes to show how many other people were deserving as well. Morneau was just more so by 14 points. Again, to say he wasn't deserving is flat out wrong!

  14. #29

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    He wasn't deserving because he wasn't the most valuable player.
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    Re: Strike 3's AL MVP.....

    I beg to differ and so do most baseball voters

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