The one time Slyder signs someone off the scrap heap and he actually develops.....

[nick]

... he doesn't keep him long enough to see the effects! lol!!


John England seems to have improved his pure stuff!
John England's pitches have more bite now, the movement has improved!
John England is hitting his spots better, his command improved!


Drafted in 9th round, 260th overall pick, by Colorado in 2012...
Released by Colorado on 7/16/2012...
Signed as a free agent by Kansas City on 3/3/2013 to a minor league deal...
Traded from Kansas City to New York (N) on 6/16/2015 (Going to NYN: P John England, CF Eduardo Jose Sosa, 2B Mark Mack. Going to KCA: P Jordan Walden, P Anthony Hackler)...


#9 John England, Starting Pitcher, 21 yrs, New York (N) Mets - Out of the Park Baseball Report
9-10-10 .. albeit being pretty far off...

That's pretty hilarious Shame on GF as well.... though I have no idea how he developed that much. He must have boosted after Slyder signed him or something too, besides this recent one with NYN.

[NYgiantsfan5689]

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Drafted in 9th round, 260th overall pick, by Colorado in 2012...
Released by Colorado on 7/16/2012...
Signed as a free agent by Kansas City on 3/3/2013 to a minor league deal...
Traded from Kansas City to New York (N) on 6/16/2015 (Going to NYN: P John England, CF Eduardo Jose Sosa, 2B Mark Mack. Going to KCA: P Jordan Walden, P Anthony Hackler)...

Shame on GF as well....

I only release guys who really, really suck. Therefore there are 2 explainations for this. 1) I didn't have the team yet (I don't exactly remember when I took over the team) or 2) he REALLY boosted after I cut him. I mean REALLY REALLY boosted. Because I only cut guys who have absolutely no chance of ever being good.

[nick]

I know GF, I was just ****ing. I'd be curious to find out who did release him though....

[NYgiantsfan5689]

haha yea that would be interesting. didn't zito have the team before me?

[Kingdom]

I was, but I took San Diego in 2011.

[NYgiantsfan5689]

hmm...was there a gap in between us?

[Kingdom]

Nope. I took them over in the offseason. You took Colorado, LJ took ATL, and whoever LJ had..was..whatever.

[NYgiantsfan5689]

Interesting. Then I must have cut this guy. Whoops

[Kingdom]

At any rate, I wouldn't feel bad about it GF. You weren't the guy who cut a 28 year old Carlos Pena, =)

[NYgiantsfan5689]

Haha good call. And nice pickup!

[General]

**** you

[Slyder]

He boosted to like 9 8 8 like August of last season I think. I spun him for a good young pitcher I cant be to upset that he boosted again. Thats why I sign a few guys like that (especially the really young guys) I think England might have been 18 when I signed him.

*Edit sometimes you can find some real surprises.

[Kingdom]

He couldn't have been that bad, even with 2 boosts. There's really no reason why anyone should cut a 6-7-7 type teenager. It just seems like he was one of those players with the funky player histories. He had no minor stats during his brief stint with Colorado.

[Slyder]

I think he was like 4 5 5 when i signed him or something like that maybe not even that good.

[nick]

4-5-6 or something sounds about right... i think there was a 6 in there. i remember when he first boosted.. i think hes boosted like 3 times. shit