Trade - BOS (ML) - CHI

[CrazyEights]

BOS (ML) Trades:

LF Frankie Pepper 3.0 stars 4 mil
CF Matt Christopher 5.0 spec 300k
3B Fernando Sucre 5.0 spec MLC
SP Bud Weiser 5.0 spec MLC
SP Harry Brizzolara 4.0 spec MLC

Money Balance Players
RF Scott Hairston 2.5 stars 2.15 mil
MR Nathan Bumstead 2.5 stars 1.6 mil
MR Brett Myers 2.5 stars 1.55 mil

Total 9.6 mil


CHI Trades
CL Paul Kamp 4.0 stars 300k
CF Grady Sizemore 3.5 stars 20 mil
SP Justin McKnight 5.0 spec 300k
2012 1st round pick (#23 overall)

Total 20.6 mil
Cash: 5.0 mil
Net Total: 15.6 mil

Note:

We know this is over 10 players and cash however there is no fair way to seperate it for the TC to view it so execute as 2 seperate trades but evaluate as 1.

[browntown653]

Is this allowed?

Either way, I don't want to pass it.

[CrazyEights]

I'll allow it, if it passes

[DMBZeppelin]

Fail.

Boston gives up too much. Even if I don't consider money balancing players. Chicago also dumps a lot of cash.

Bottom line.

Pepper, Christopher, Sucre, Weiser >>> Sizemore, McKnight, 1st round draft pick.

I mean considering Christopher is pretty much a much younger sizemore, and McKnight and Weiser and pretty similar. I'm not understanding why Boston is giving up so much more.

[Kingdom]

Has Weiser progressed any? If I remember him correctly, he hadn't and he only has 2 pitches. He didn't strike me as a very good player down the road if he even developes. I do not have the site up for reference though, I'll have to vote later.

[Kingdom]

I'll pass. For me the add ins amount to nothing for me so I'm not looking at them much. I'm not crazy about Peppers despite the highly unrealistic start. Sizemore is pretty good. For me, I'd much rather have the upper echelon or potentially upper echelon pitching and McKnight is 10's across and Kamp's a strong reliever/closer. And they make a combined 600k right now. In this overly stacked league, I'd much rather have a 10 10 10 ace starting pitcher and a closer with a sub 1 era.

Chicago still gets a nice haul since Christopher could be really good. I'm not sold on Weiser but he still has a lot of potential.

[OrioleMagic]

I'll pass it as well. I think Boston gets the better end of it over the next 3 years and Chicago reaps it's dividends three to ten years down the road... although McKnight and Christopher have immediate impact potential although both have underperformed stat wise...

Close enough.

[Doppelgänger]

Pretty ridiculous, but if the player limit isn't an issue I'll pass.

[CrazyEights]

Fail.

Boston gives up too much. Even if I don't consider money balancing players. Chicago also dumps a lot of cash.

Bottom line.

Pepper, Christopher, Sucre, Weiser >>> Sizemore, McKnight, 1st round draft pick.

I mean considering Christopher is pretty much a much younger sizemore, and McKnight and Weiser and pretty similar. I'm not understanding why Boston is giving up so much more.

I agree and disagree with this. I don't think that Boston is giving up more than Chicago. Sizemore is a great player, and isn't ancient, he is still under 30. McKnight is young and already fully developed, unlike Weiser who still has a long way to go. The draft pick could be a very player. I think this trade is very lopsided towards Boston. The part that I agree with is the fail, I'm sorry, but I just can't pass. Without the draft pick, I would pass.

[NYgiantsfan5689]

Ok, well, I'm going to pass this. Because I feel like, in the end, Boston gets the better end of the bargain, but the thing DMB forgot to mention in his is Kamp. Who, yes, I know he's a reliever and they often get the short end of value. But his popularity I feel is very underrated, and that is some money right there. Also, he's 24. He's the X factor in this deal for me.

Plus, McKnight is just irreplacable. Now I know that Weiser is 10-9-10 and decently filled out. But you cant duplicate him. He has everything.

To me, this is decently even, enough to PASS