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    Revised Point System

    We will run daily sims unless notification is given from the commisioner that a sim will be delayed.

    The deadline for submitting line-up changes is 8:00pm EST, and 10 games will be played each day. Line-up changes can be sent to me via pm or they can be exported if you own a copy of OOTP.

    The league holds each GM accountable for keeping their payroll below the league salary cap. A GM cannot spend more than the "amount available for free agents" on their team financial page even regardless of whether their payroll would still be less than the Salary cap. I want more focus in the future to be based on teams making money and staying out of debt.

    If a team violates the salary cap, they will receive a warning from the commisioner with a time limit to correct the situation. If the sitiuation is not corrected, then the GM will be replaced.


    SBSL Point System (This system may be adjusted at anytime)

    How to accumulate points

    1 point for each Quality Post in the Random Ramblings threadand other designated threads such as prediction threads or pre-season polls
    10 points for each quality article submitted about your team
    20 points for each quality article submitted about a league event

    What is a Quality post or article? The term Quality is only used to avoid misuse of the system. Posts will not count toward your point total if they aren't league related. Your posts will not count if you posts multiple posts in a row. An article must be of a good size in order to accumulate points. The Commisioner will determine if a post of article qualifies for points. Most posts and articles should qualify as long as there is no post count padding. An article must be sent to the Commisioner to qualify for points.

    The value of points

    Beginning in 2008, the draft order will be determined by how many Points each team has accumulated the previous season instead of being based on win/loss records. The team with the most points will have the first pick in the draft, and the team with the least amount of points will have the last pick in the draft. This is designed to encourage activity in the forum and to keep GMs from dismantling their teams and tanking just to get a good pick in the amateur draft.

    Point Rewards
    A team must accumulate points before they can relocate their team. If you accumulate 200 points, and do not want to relocate you team, you can request a switch from the NL to the AL or from the AL to the NL.


    This point system is a trial, and can be changed at any time. What I'm hoping is that everybody will use this as a chance to become more actively involved in the league.

    Rewards for points may be added at any time, and these guidlines are subject to change.

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    Wow... I think that is a bit HARSH, that the draft order is completely determined by points.... kind of penalizes those with jobs, lives, family, commitments, etc...

    Not a criticism, but I could see bonuses for participation... not reliance on it
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiamondDave
    Wow... I think that is a bit HARSH, that the draft order is completely determined by points.... kind of penalizes those with jobs, lives, family, commitments, etc...

    Not a criticism, but I could see bonuses for participation... not reliance on it
    I agree with Dave here, the amatuer draft is suppose to help those who need it the most, if you want to try and keep teams from doing something like purposely leave their team short to lose more games then maybe see if it would be possible to institute some sort of "Lottery" system.

    By setting the entire draft on the basis of points setups way too many oppertunities for the rich to get richer and more teams to become Louisville (pre-reset) or Tampa Bay, KC, LA in S3SL unable to compete cause of lack of young talent.

    Thats just my 2 cents, the rest of it sounds good so far.

    Will you still post a new thread for each sim just as a little reminder for everyone to get their changes in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiamondDave
    Wow... I think that is a bit HARSH, that the draft order is completely determined by points.... kind of penalizes those with jobs, lives, family, commitments, etc...

    Not a criticism, but I could see bonuses for participation... not reliance on it
    I see your point. We'll try it for a season, and see how it goes. My main concern is that there is a handful of GMs that post in the forum, and the rest rarely ever post. These guidelines aren't designed to try and get people to spend all of their time posting in the forums instead of spending time with their families or at jobs. I'll consider a change if it seems like anyone is being penalized for that. Any GM should be able to post about the latest sim when they check the results. It probably won't take much more than that to obtain a good pick in the draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slyder
    By setting the entire draft on the basis of points setups way too many oppertunities for the rich to get richer and more teams to become Louisville (pre-reset) or Tampa Bay, KC, LA in S3SL unable to compete cause of lack of young talent.
    Well...my original idea was to start everybody off with a set amount of points based on their record. The worst team would get 30 points to start and the best team would receive 1 point. That would handicap the better teams. I thought that might make the system too complex though.

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    That sounds doable... maybe more than 30-29-28 etc for record though... considering 2 articles would almost automatically more the best team in the league to above the worst record team, if he/she posts 2 articles and the worst team still posts 9 "worthy" posts... maybe something like 5 points per standing place.... 150 for worst team, 145 for 29th etc.... giving more of a buffer
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiamondDave
    That sounds doable... maybe more than 30-29-28 etc for record though... considering 2 articles would almost automatically more the best team in the league to above the worst record team, if he/she posts 2 articles and the worst team still posts 9 "worthy" posts... maybe something like 5 points per standing place.... 150 for worst team, 145 for 29th etc.... giving more of a buffer
    That could work. It gives teams with the worst record an advantage, but also encourages activity in the forum.

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    I dunno about this. I don't think the draft should be touched.

    Reward points would be nice, but not in a draft way.
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    Sounds interesting. I might get the last pick in the draft now. Although I could probably write a few articles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by General
    I dunno about this. I don't think the draft should be touched.
    The problem with keeping the draft the same is that it is too easy for a team to tank at the end of the season just to get the best pick in the draft. That happens in this league, and happens in every league with the draft that way.

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    Come on guys...I really think this system will work out well if we give it a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyEights
    The problem with keeping the draft the same is that it is too easy for a team to tank at the end of the season just to get the best pick in the draft. That happens in this league, and happens in every league with the draft that way.
    But...when they tank, maybe they do it for 2-3 years, they only get 2-3 studs. Those who make the trades and have good teams can still build a good team for the future, be it harder to compete in later years though. I say keep the draft the same, but somehow disallow tanking by enforcing a 3 year 100 loss rule, if they hit that then they are out. I do like the points though, for something else.
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    Exactly. For something else. Not the draft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raphictor
    But...when they tank, maybe they do it for 2-3 years, they only get 2-3 studs. Those who make the trades and have good teams can still build a good team for the future, be it harder to compete in later years though. I say keep the draft the same, but somehow disallow tanking by enforcing a 3 year 100 loss rule, if they hit that then they are out. I do like the points though, for something else.
    There lies the problem... a team tanks for 2-3 years.

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