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    Re: Ilya Kovalchuk stays in New Jersey, spurns the L.A. Kings

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabu88 View Post
    Penguins need to do this with Crosby
    God yes.

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    Re: Ilya Kovalchuk stays in New Jersey, spurns the L.A. Kings

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabu88 View Post
    Penguins need to do this with Crosby
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    God yes.
    Why? So the league can reject it?
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    Re: Ilya Kovalchuk stays in New Jersey, spurns the L.A. Kings

    Over the next year, the Kings will have to sign Drew Doughty, Jack Johnson and Wayne Simmonds to new deals and an exorbitant amount of money and/or term on the books would have affected their ability to do that.
    I can understand Doughty and maybe Simmonds, but Jack Johnson? Come on now.

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    Re: Ilya Kovalchuk stays in New Jersey, spurns the L.A. Kings

    So an arbitrator rejected the appeal for Ilya Kovalchuk's deal. He's now a free agent again. What's to stop him from signing a new deal with New Jersey for... 16 years? How about 15 if they reject that one? 14? etc.

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    Re: Ilya Kovalchuk stays in New Jersey, spurns the L.A. Kings

    Now the NHL is looking at all these contracts. Hossa, Luongo, Detroit's, all of them.
    When did Gary grow a pair?

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    Re: Ilya Kovalchuk stays in New Jersey, spurns the L.A. Kings

    The new proposed contract is now 15 years, $100 million. His yearly salaries don't dip below the $1 million mark and there's an increase toward the end of the contract, but otherwise it's structured in the same bullshit way.

    2010-11: $6 million
    2011-12: $6 million
    2012-13: $11 million
    2013-14: $11.3 million
    2014-15: $11.3 million
    2015-16: $11.6 million
    2016-17: $11.8 million
    2017-18: $10 million
    2018-19: $7 million
    2019-20: $4 million
    2020-21: $1 million
    2021-22: $1 million
    2022-23: $1 million
    2023-24: $3 million
    2024-25: $4 million

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    Re: Ilya Kovalchuk stays in New Jersey, spurns the L.A. Kings

    Quote Originally Posted by realmofotalk View Post
    The new proposed contract is now 15 years, $100 million. His yearly salaries don't dip below the $1 million mark and there's an increase toward the end of the contract, but otherwise it's structured in the same bullshit way.

    2010-11: $6 million
    2011-12: $6 million
    2012-13: $11 million
    2013-14: $11.3 million
    2014-15: $11.3 million
    2015-16: $11.6 million
    2016-17: $11.8 million
    2017-18: $10 million
    2018-19: $7 million
    2019-20: $4 million
    2020-21: $1 million
    2021-22: $1 million
    2022-23: $1 million
    2023-24: $3 million
    2024-25: $4 million
    How old will he be by 2021? It seems contracts like this pay well for the "prime years" and recognize at some point he wont be worth that big of a payday.
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    Re: Ilya Kovalchuk stays in New Jersey, spurns the L.A. Kings

    He'll be 38 by 2021, so you're right that the salaries should fall in line with his production as he ages. But given the presence of a salary cap, it's still bullshit a team can structure a contract such that they would be getting a $11 million player for the price of a $6.67 million cap hit in his prime years.

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    Re: Ilya Kovalchuk stays in New Jersey, spurns the L.A. Kings

    So the NHL accepts a 15-year deal but not a 17-year one. I guess that's where the limit is.

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    Re: Ilya Kovalchuk stays in New Jersey, spurns the L.A. Kings

    And changes the rules for everyone in doing so.

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    Re: Ilya Kovalchuk stays in New Jersey, spurns the L.A. Kings

    yeah the rules got changed from today on

    the old contracts are not affected though
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    Re: Ilya Kovalchuk stays in New Jersey, spurns the L.A. Kings

    So the Devils got fined $3 million and were stripped of a future first round pick. I think missionhockey21 would agree it couldn't happen to a nicer franchise.

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    Re: Ilya Kovalchuk stays in New Jersey, spurns the L.A. Kings

    old Lou tried to get another of his loopholes in, it looks good on him
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    Re: Ilya Kovalchuk stays in New Jersey, spurns the L.A. Kings

    Epicly hilarious
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