The grinds my gears thread

[HollywoodLeo]

No.

It sure seems like it. Everytime I post anything in here the next response is by you, like clockwork. You even responded to one of my posts how you wanted to argue against it but didn't know exactly what it was I was arguing.

By just attending church? No, no you cannot.



Sure, but going to church has no impact on one becoming a Christian. Just like going to a garage has no impact on one becoming a car.

You can become a Christian but it has nothing to do with going to church, which church was the main focus here.

I realize you don't become a Christian just by going to church. That's the entire premise of the faulty analogy. But it's still a faulty analogy because, while just going to church doesn't make you a Christian you CAN become a Christian....you just have to do more than just go to church. In fact, that's the very argument they're trying to make with the faulty analogy. Don't just go to church and call yourself a Christian. Do all the other stuff that goes along with it.

Conversely, no matter how hard you try and no matter what you do you absolutely can NOT become a car. The analogy doesn't work.

It should be "...no more than going to the kitchen makes you a cook".

See, that analogy works. I walk into a kitchen but that doesn't make me a cook. I have to actually get the ingredients and know how to use them.

Now quit arguing just to argue.

[Mach]

It sure seems like it. Everytime I post anything in here the next response is by you, like clockwork. You even responded to one of my posts how you wanted to argue against it but didn't know exactly what it was I was arguing.

You realize that no was kind of an argument.

I realize you don't become a Christian just by going to church. That's the entire premise of the faulty analogy. But it's still a faulty analogy because, while just going to church doesn't make you a Christian you CAN become a Christian....you just have to do more than just go to church. In fact, that's the very argument they're trying to make with the faulty analogy. Don't just go to church and call yourself a Christian. Do all the other stuff that goes along with it.

Conversely, no matter how hard you try and no matter what you do you absolutely can NOT become a car. The analogy doesn't work.

It should be "...no more than going to the kitchen makes you a cook".

See, that analogy works. I walk into a kitchen but that doesn't make me a cook. I have to actually get the ingredients and know how to use them.

You're focusing on the ability to become a Christian. I'm focusing on the role of church in the ability to become a Christan.

Now quit arguing just to argue.

Quit telling me how to post!

[Lynch]

watching you two bicker is kinda like watching these two with their candyass slapfest:

[Mach]

I wouldn't even call what we're doing bickering.

[schisno]

I thought it was just debating

[HollywoodLeo]

I thought it was just debating

Some people can't tell the difference between debate and bickering.

[Lynch]

Some people can't tell the difference between debate and bickering.

Ahem:

... I was arguing.
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Now quit arguing just to argue.

And some people apparently can't tell the difference between debating and arguing ?




buncha grumpy mothafuckers up in here

[HollywoodLeo]

Ahem:



And some people apparently can't tell the difference between debating and arguing ?




buncha grumpy mothafuckers up in here

Well, the problem here lies in the fact that those same people who can't tell the difference between debate and bickering are the same people who think the word "argue" is the same as the word "bicker" when, in reality, an "argument" is a synonym of "debate".

We've only colloquially changed the meaning of the word "argument" because many people can't handle a real argument and resort to bickering and name calling in the middle of one.

To wit...

By the way, I meant that in the literal semantic sense.

More specifically, #2 in the dictionary.com definition of "argument"

a discussion involving differing points of view; debate: They were deeply involved in an argument about inflation.

...not the connotation that people generally give that word envisioning people screaming and yelling at each other irrationally.

[Lynch]

Well, the problem here lies in the fact that those same people who can't tell the difference between debate and bickering are the same people who think the word "argue" is the same as the word "bicker" when, in reality, an "argument" is a synonym of "debate".

(cough*ahem*cough)

bicker
verb
1.to engage in petulant or peevish argument:

The two were always bickering.

In the immortal words of the great Stan Lee ... "'nuff said"

[HollywoodLeo]

Maybe you should also look up the definition of "context".

I mean, it's not as though I specified the definition of the word I was using in my last post or anything.

2. a discussion involving differing points of view; debate: They were deeply involved in an argument about inflation.

Nevermind, I forgot we're on the internet. Everything's supposed to be childish jokes and cat pictures.

If you approach anything with any modicum of seriousness you're a bitter person with no sense of humor and you're bickering and fighting.

(this is the part where Lynch tells me I'm riled up and claims victory.)

[Lynch]

Maybe you should loosed up your grammar nazi shorts and have a beer



Seriously... have 2. I'll buy

[HollywoodLeo]

I never turn down free beer but drinking has never stopped me from engaging in civil debate on the internet that people like you often mistake for bickering and complaining.

[Lynch]

If you approach anything with any modicum of seriousness you're a bitter person with no sense of humor and you're bickering and fighting.
^^^
Last edited by HollywoodLeo; Today at 08:38 PM.

And this folks, is what we call "CYOA in an attempt to pretend it's ALL in lighthearted fun, which of course, it is, right?

[HollywoodLeo]

And this folks, is what we call "CYOA in an attempt to pretend it's ALL in lighthearted fun, which of course, it is, right?

I was actually adding more argumentative shit in there. Shows how much attention you're paying to it.

[HollywoodLeo]

But really, re-reading my post and adding in more points I felt I forgot to include after-the-fact in an edit has always been my M.O.

Nobody should really respond to any of my posts until about a minute or two after it's posted