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Thread: Once and for all... Let's get this straight!

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    Re: Once and for all... Let's get this straight!

    Quote Originally Posted by OrioleMagic View Post
    Maybe I haven't said it clearly enough. I am in no way asking for a rule change. This is an issue within the rules, specifically the trade I have in the TC with Zodious. I am trying to take some of his salary along with a mid spec, while sending him a two month rental for which I am paying the remainder of his contract. I should not have to send the cash amount of the entire contract, but merely the pro-rated amount based on the date of the trade. This is the issue intended to be discussed in this thread and nothing else.

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    But thats what they are saying... you ARE. The TC judges trades based on all year.

    Thus, regardless of what OOTP does... the rule in THIS LEAGUE is you have to base it on FULL YEAR numbers.

    You saying this needs to be changed is... you asking for a rule change.

    Everyone I think understand. YES, it is PRORATED in the game. However, IN THIS LEAGUE, you send based on the WHOLE YEAR and not whats left.

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    Re: Once and for all... Let's get this straight!

    Quote Originally Posted by HafDawg2003 View Post
    But thats what they are saying... you ARE. The TC judges trades based on all year.

    Thus, regardless of what OOTP does... the rule in THIS LEAGUE is you have to base it on FULL YEAR numbers.

    You saying this needs to be changed is... you asking for a rule change.

    Everyone I think understand. YES, it is PRORATED in the game. However, IN THIS LEAGUE, you send based on the WHOLE YEAR and not whats left.

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    Re: Once and for all... Let's get this straight!

    Quote Originally Posted by HafDawg2003 View Post
    But thats what they are saying... you ARE. The TC judges trades based on all year.

    Thus, regardless of what OOTP does... the rule in THIS LEAGUE is you have to base it on FULL YEAR numbers.

    You saying this needs to be changed is... you asking for a rule change.

    Everyone I think understand. YES, it is PRORATED in the game. However, IN THIS LEAGUE, you send based on the WHOLE YEAR and not whats left.
    Show me the rule? Where in Mission's Instructions/Rules does it say the TC must base it on full year numbers?

    Where did I say anything needs to be changed? I just asked what the OOTP game does?

    Mission, need some help here... This thread has gotten completely hijacked.

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    Re: Once and for all... Let's get this straight!

    A. Financial: This is simple, if the amount of money you receive in player salary in a trade outnumbers your FA available money, you can't do the trade. For instance

    PHI has 5 million in FA money, and he receives a 7 million dollar player in a trade without getting 2 million, giving a 2 million+ player(s), or a combination of both, he cannot do said trade

    IV. Hints when you are trading

    A. Consider the financial consequences. A trade is not only based on talent, money is a very big factor in trading. Always be sure to consider whether trading your 3.0 SP making 350k is worth upgrading to a 4.0, but absorbing 12.5 million in salary. Some times are in dire straits because they did not consider salary problems. Sometimes, finances can be more important then talent.

    V. Financials

    OK, here is how to judge if you can do a trade financially. With the new format, it is easy.

    The team that takes on less salary has no problems, so this is only to the team taking on more salary.

    Look at the format, specifically the subtotals of annual salary. Take the higher subtotal and subtract the lower subtotal, and compare it to your available FA money. If the subtotal amount is more then your available FA money, you cannot do a trade, if it is less, you can do a trade, for instance

    PHI gives:
    Player X (9,000,000, SP, 4.5)

    HOU gives:
    Player Y (1,000,000, 2B, 3.5)

    OK, HOU receives the 9m dollar SP, so they take on 9 million dollars (SP) - 1 million dollars (2B), meaning they have to take on 8 million dollars.

    HOU total FA money: 4,584,403

    In this case, 8 million is more then the 4.5 million and change, so they could not make this trade.
    Here is Mission's instructions. Frankly, I think Haf is right. I haven't looked at these instructions in a while and didn't remember them to be this detailed. The way these rules are written, which happens to be for all three leagues, implies to those who don't own the game that the entire contract must be considered when making a trade.

    Please understand that this thread was a reaction to Zodious turning down my trade because someone told him that he would be charged the entire yearly amount of Porto and Romero's contract. We both wanted him to take on zero money and the truth is, if I had sent the full amount of the contracts, I would have paid 2/3 more than needed to cover the players salary for KC. Whoever told Zodious that the whole contract followed the player was wrong, however, that is a completely different issue than what these instructions imply. I can see now where there was some confusion on this.

    Mission put the trade through, so I am happy regardless of anything else.

    I leave the rest of this issue to work itself out. Thanks for everyone's patience, or...
    Last edited by OrioleMagic; 10-02-2010 at 08:41 PM.

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    Re: Once and for all... Let's get this straight!

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    Hugs 'n Kisses,

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    Re: Once and for all... Let's get this straight!

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    Warm salutations,
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    So much talking about nothing in this thread...
    "Players can't get better over time." -GiantsFanatic

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    Re: Once and for all... Let's get this straight!

    Quote Originally Posted by HafDawg2003 View Post
    Warm salutations,
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    Re: Once and for all... Let's get this straight!

    Ok, I have a related question. Can I recall a player from AAA despite having zero $$ left for free agents?

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    Re: Once and for all... Let's get this straight!

    Yes.
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