Take THAT Seattle (lol i stole browntowns title)

[Kingdom]

Milwaukee used to be like that. As far as I know, ____ has kept up with his roster since being in the league. So scratch them from the idea.

[HafDawg2003]

I'm against contraction. I'm all for taking a bad team to revitalize it.

Or getting someone to.

[realmofotalk]

Saber, make a damn petition thread already

A petition? How about simply giving that friend of his a ****ing phone call?

[Saber]

Let's find a new Seattle GM.

[nick]

I'm against contraction. I'm all for taking a bad team to revitalize it.

Or getting someone to.

The only reason contraction sounded fun to me, is because when you get to year 2022, sometimes stuff like that actually seems like it'd breathe new life into an otherwise at times (in my opinion, atleast) stale league. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the league, but after so long sometimes like all things it can become stale.

This has obviously been the best league on the site in all of it's running, and it's nuts to think it's still running after so many years and GM changes and everything. But when you run something for as long as it has been ran it's almost impossible to keep it completely fresh.

I don't know, maybe it's just me. But how many more times can we keep bringing in new GMs to "revitalize" a bad team? It's not as easy as it sounds. There's barely any prospects anymore, those who have prospects refuse to trade them at this point, and everyone's a Billy Beane for the most part. To rebuild it takes about 4 years, and if I was a new GM and hadn't been in the league for a long time, I think I'd probably lose patience at some point along the line. Whether it's because there's less real players now, less prospects, or whatever... the random rumblings thread was discussing it the other day.

I'm just saying, it wouldn't be that bad to shake things up. Not that it'd happen, because all of the old regulars or whatever wouldn't like it, but how many years in a row are we going to have Baltimore/Boston-Detroit/Minnesota-Anaheim/Oakland and in the NL Florida/Washington-Pittsburgh(as long as zito isn't bored of winning even like he is this year)/Cinci-LA/Colorado? Sure there's exceptions like Tampa, NYA for awhile... but I can't think of anyone who's really won period besides the teams I just named.

Again, I'm not trying to rock the boat or anything, I'm just throwing ideas in the hat... it just seems like year in, year out, it's the same thing. Teams tank, try to rebuild, it backfires, we see the same playoff and world series every year. Repeat.

But again, I can get an active GM for the Mariners who would love to run the Mariners (his favorite team is the Mariners...) and I could do it today.

[OrioleMagic]

This reminds me of a thread I started a short time ago...

I traded you Butera!!!

I think there are a core group of GM's that are pretty good. (like you said)

OOTP is just like life. It has it's peaks and valleys.

Contraction might infuse a little life into the league temporarily, but Mish would have to keep a back-up file for sure. When new GM's come along we should expand to 30 again. An expansion draft would be nuts though.

In the end, I think finding a couple of active GM's is the right answer. Sometimes thats hard to do though. TSSL and TPSL have some decent GM's that aren't in this league, maybe that would be a good start.

[HafDawg2003]

thats why I wanted to give the Tigers to a new manager and I take one of the poor teams. I'll stay and build, and a new manager would be more likely to stay if they were controlling a winner like Detroit. I'd also encourage other managers to do the same.

But some don't want to do that, and thats also understandable. I just like the challenge of building teams.

[Kingdom]

Taking up Haf's idea is also a solid ideer.


I get bored easily Nick. e-ADHD. I had fun tearing down a two-time..or actually 3-4 time champ in Pittsburgh, and then tearing apart my Anaheim team early on in TSSL. If I strike gold in TPSL, I'll prolly do some de-construction once again. I kinda find it fun to field a team full of crap, backups, and rookies.. I mean, I'm trying to lose right now but I field a regular team. And watching my 4 man rotation get burned.. hilarious.

[nick]

I wasn't taking a shot at your team at all Koz (if it came out that way), I think it's fine what you're doing... because you field a team, and don't intentionally tank like some have in the past. I'd do it too, if my team was any good for long periods of time. But I inherited a horrible situation and never have managed it right, atleast in this league.

I'm just using your team in the example.

Hafdawg's idea works well too if people are willing to do that.

[Kingdom]

Didn't take it as a shot.

[nick]

your mother's smelly

[Kingdom]

I'm bleeding like your vagina.

[HafDawg2003]

Its just easier to fill good teams than bad. And I'm all for taking a bad team to increase competition.