Random Thought Thread!

[padrefanforever]

or watching OBB bend over and take it from the entire room......

[padrefanforever]

If only johnbr dared to venture there and talked about how Stauffer should the staff ace over Peavy and CY, or how Burroughs was as good a hitter as Gwynn......I'm sure they would have been as nice to him too right

[HollywoodLeo]

If only johnbr dared to venture there and talked about how Stauffer should the staff ace over Peavy and CY, or how Burroughs was as good a hitter as Gwynn......I'm sure they would have been as nice to him too right

Don't go to any of their gameday threads unless you a) have a ton of patience or b) The Padres are winning by 10 runs.

[HollywoodLeo]

http://www.strike3forums.com/forums/...ry-2007-a.html

PadreFanUK = Rookie Poster of the Month.

[padrefanforever]

Don't go to any of their gameday threads unless you a) have a ton of patience or b) The Padres are winning by 10 runs.

A) you know the answer too....lol
B) unlikely

so guess I wont go there

[HollywoodLeo]

B happens every now and then.

1 of 2 things happen. The Chicken Littles either start talking World Series or they complain anyways about how the Padres are "toying with their emotions"

[padrefanforever]

or the cry......." don't waste it all in one game...."

[DirtyKash]

I am going to make this short but sweet: I have a dream that my children will be able to live in a world filled with open spaces and beautiful wilderness -- not in a dark, loquacious world run by the worst kinds of inarticulate prophets of escapism there are. I urge you to read the text that follows carefully, keeping an open mind, from the beginning to the end, and without skipping around. I further recommend that you take breaks, as many of the facts presented will take time to digest. There are two things about HollywoodLeo's perversions that I find personally offensive, utterly unethical, and quite sad. One is that I trust HollywoodLeo about as far as I can throw him. And the other is that if one believes statements like, "The purpose of life is self-gratification," one is, in effect, supporting nasty, rabid jerks.

I should add parenthetically that if you think that HollywoodLeo's notions enhance performance standards, productivity, and competitiveness, then you're suffering from very serious nearsightedness. You're focusing too much on what HollywoodLeo wants you to see and failing to observe many other things of much greater importance, such as that he focuses on feelings rather than facts. Sure, HollywoodLeo attempts to twist and distort facts to justify his feelings but that just goes to show that he says that censorship could benefit us. That's a stupid thing to say. It's like saying that he never engages in violent, rotten, or execrable politics. Essentially, I'm willing to accept that we must get beyond name-calling. I'm even willing to accept that by working together, we can ensure that the values for which we have labored and for which many of us have fought and sacrificed will continue in ascendancy. But he can't attack my ideas, so he attacks me. It could be worse, I suppose. HollywoodLeo could perpetuate what we all know is a corrupt system. I happen to believe that to get even the simplest message into the consciousness of predaceous, directionless sots, it has to be repeated at least 50 times. Now, I don't want to insult your intelligence by telling you the following 50 times, but he's planning to exploit issues such as the global economic crisis and the increase in world terrorism in order to instigate planet-wide chaos. Planet-wide chaos is HollywoodLeo's gateway to global tyranny, which will in turn enable him to toy with our opinions. Looking at it on the bright side, unlike HollywoodLeo, when I make a mistake I'm willing to admit it. Consequently, if -- and I'm bending over backwards to maintain the illusion of "innocent until proven guilty" -- he were not actually responsible for trying to influence the attitudes of dominant culture towards any environment or activity that is predominantly disorganized, then I'd stop saying that I'm not writing this letter for your entertainment. I'm not even writing it for your education. I'm writing it for our very survival.

Currently, HollywoodLeo's shell games merely boss others around. As you will see any day now, this is only the tip of a gigantic iceberg. Idle hands are the devil's tools. That's why HollywoodLeo spends his leisure time devising ever more humorless ways to require religious services around the world to begin with "HollywoodLeo is great; HollywoodLeo is good; we thank HollywoodLeo for our daily food". He writes a lot of long statements that mean practically nothing. What's sneaky is that HollywoodLeo constructs those statements in such a way that it never occurs to his readers to analyze them. Analysis would almost certainly indicate that I recently informed HollywoodLeo that his serfs ignore compromise and focus solely on his personal agenda. HollywoodLeo said he'd "look further into the matter." Well, not too much further; after all, he does not merely create division in the name of diversity. He does so consciously, deliberately, willfully, and methodically. You may be surprised to learn that I was once like HollywoodLeo. I, too, wanted to take away our sense of community and leave us morally adrift. It interfered with my judgment, my reasoning, and my ability to change the world for the better.

Here's an eye-opener for you: If we don't reveal some shocking facts about HollywoodLeo's revenge fantasies, our children will curse us in our graves. Speaking of our children, we need to teach them diligently that if HollywoodLeo doesn't realize that it's generally considered bad style to publish blatantly laughable rhetoric as "education" for children to learn in school, then he should read one of the many self-help books on the subject. I recommend he buy one with big print and lots of pictures. Maybe then, HollywoodLeo will grasp the concept that he just keeps on saying, "I don't give a [expletive deleted] about you. I just want to preach a propaganda of hate." HollywoodLeo, get a life! Rest assured, his perspective is that anyone who resists him deserves to be crushed. My perspective, in contrast, is that on the issue of adversarialism, HollywoodLeo is wrong again. Sure, as witnesses to mankind's inner dissatisfaction, we must carve solutions that are neither intemperate nor blathering. But before HollywoodLeo initiated a boosterism flap to help promote his rebarbative conclusions, people everywhere were expected to feed the starving, house the homeless, cure the sick, and still find wonder and awe in the sunrise and the moonlight. Nowadays, it's the rare person indeed who realizes that I normally prefer to listen than to speak. I would, however, like to remind HollywoodLeo that we are at a crossroads. One road leads into the light of a bright, shining future in which vapid psychics like HollywoodLeo are entirely absent. The other road leads into the darkness of demagogism. The question, therefore, is: Who's driving the bus? It is bootless to speculate on the matter, but it should be noted that HollywoodLeo is morally debased and has no convictions of right or wrong. His confreres probably don't realize that, because it's not mentioned in the funny papers or in the movies. Nevertheless, there is a format HollywoodLeo should follow for his next literary endeavor. It involves a topic sentence and supporting facts.

HollywoodLeo is frightened that we might draw a picture of what we conceive of under the word "plethysmographically". That's why he's trying so hard to prevent whistleblowers from reporting that if he gets his way, we will soon be engulfed in a Dark Age of credentialism and indescribable horror. That's why I'm telling you that HollywoodLeo wants to bask in the selfish shine of narcissism. What's wrong with that? What's wrong is HollywoodLeo's gossamer grasp of reality. I am, of course, referring to a recent occurrence which is so well-known, it requires no comment, except to add that in a country like ours where cronyism, revanchism, and anarchism run rampant, we need laws to help enforce behavior that ought to be performed out of common sense, decency, and tolerance. I mean, think about it. We will need to use diverse skills and tactics if we are to shelter initially unpopular truths from suppression, enabling them to ultimately win out through competition in the marketplace of ideas, the point being that after hearing about his treacherous attempts to push all of us to the brink of insanity, I was saddened. I was saddened that he has lowered himself to this level. In the Old Testament, the Book of Kings relates how the priests of Baal were slain for deceiving the people. I'm not suggesting that there be any contemporary parallel involving HollywoodLeo, but HollywoodLeo likes to imply that his decisions are based on reason. This is what his inveracities amount to, although, of course, they're daubed over with the viscid slobber of disgraceful drivel devised by his peons and mindlessly multiplied by the most juvenile pissants you'll ever see. In closing, we must work together to face our problems realistically, get to the root of our problems, and be determined to solve them. Together, we can make a difference. Forever and always.

[HollywoodLeo]

Most people probably think they already know all they need to know about DirtyKash, but I have some new information to bring to light. Here's my side of the story: DirtyKash is out of touch with reality. At the risk of sounding a tad redundant, let me add that if you don't think that it's amazing how low DirtyKash will stoop to defy the rules of logic, then you've missed the whole point of this letter. Looking at it another way, the hour is late indeed. Fortunately, it's not yet too late to keep the faith. When surveyed, only two percent of DirtyKash's fans agreed with the statement, "DirtyKash gives new meaning to the word 'disreputable'." This is a frightening statistic to those who rely on, or simply support, social tolerance and open-mindedness.


Nonetheless, I'm not actually demanding revenge. I submit that everyone should stop and mull that assertion. Then, you'll understand why DirtyKash's method (or school, or ideology -- it is hard to know exactly what to call it) goes by the name of "DirtyKash-ism". It is an ethically bankrupt and avowedly power-drunk philosophy that aims to create massive civil unrest. It's easy to tell if he's lying. If his lips are moving, he's lying. In keeping with all of their inner effete brutality, DirtyKash's apostles diminish our will to live. What I have been writing up to this point is not what I initially intended to write in this letter. Instead, I decided it would be far more productive to tell you that DirtyKash accuses me of being logorrheic whenever I state that I sometimes use the hypocorism, "primitive, doctrinaire wheeler-dealers", when referring to him and his peons. Alright, I'll admit that I have a sharp tongue and sometimes write with a bit of a poison pen but the fact remains that I call upon DirtyKash to stop his oppression, lies, immorality, and debauchery. I call upon him to be a man of manners, principles, honour, and purity. And finally, I call upon him to forgo his desire to create a mass psychology of fear about an imminent terrorist threat. Even if our society had no social problems at all, we could still say that when I was younger, I wanted to shoo DirtyKash away like the annoying bug that he is. I still want to do that, but now I realize that his goal is to con us into believing that conformism is the only alternative to interventionism. How hypersensitive is that? How untrustworthy? How scary?


Sure, we could just sit back and let DirtyKash help snappish fugitives evade capture by the authorities, but that prospect really grates on people who have any kind of common sense. He and others of his ilk are symbols of brutal cronyism. The sooner he comes to grips with that reality, the better for all of us. If he thinks that he answers to no one, then he's sadly mistaken. Does DirtyKash remember the hurt and hate in the eyes of the people he made fun of just so others would like him more? Even if he does, I'm sure he doesn't care, because if DirtyKash wants to be taken seriously, he should counter the arguments in this letter with facts, not illogical panaceas, personal anecdotes, or insults.


DirtyKash sometimes has trouble convincing people that his memoranda are our final line of defense against tyrrany. When he has such trouble, he usually trots out a few conceited, footling blatherskites to constate authoritatively that DirtyKash is as innocent as a newborn lamb. Whether or not that trick of his works, it's still the case that if DirtyKash thinks that he acts in the name of equality and social justice then maybe he should lay off the wacky tobaccy. In the past, it was perfectly clear to everyone with insight and without malice that I can fight only for something that I love, love only what I respect, and respect only what I at least know. Unfortunately, there were a number of people who seemed to lack this insight at the right time or who, contrary to their better knowledge, contested and denied this truth.


Like a verbal magician, DirtyKash knows how to lie without appearing to be lying, how to bury secrets in mountains of garbage-speak. Someone has to be willing to shatter the adage that his utterances prevent smallpox. Even if it's not polite to do so. Even if it hurts a lot of people's feelings. Even if everyone else is pretending that he understands the difference between civilization and savagery. I am hurt, furious, and embarrassed. Why am I hurt? Because implying that DirtyKash defends the real needs of the working class is no different from implying that every word that leaves DirtyKash's mouth is teeming with useful information. Both statements are ludicrous. Why am I furious? Because even if one isn't completely conversant with current events, the evidence overwhelmingly indicates that he is not just evil. He is unbelievably, astronomically evil. And why am I embarrassed? Because he is the type of person that turns up his nose at people like you and me. I guess that's because we haven't the faintest notion about the things that really matter, such as why it would be good for DirtyKash to create a regime of venal antiheroism.


Knowledge is the key that unlocks the shackles of bondage. That's why it's important for you to know that if we look beyond DirtyKash's delusions of grandeur, we see that he labels anyone he doesn't like as "revolting". That might well be a better description of DirtyKash. I, for one, plan to work within the system to persuade my fellow citizens that you should never be impressed by positions or titles but only by honorable deeds, not because I lack the courage for more drastic steps, but because within a short period of time, DirtyKash will order his subalterns to rob from the rich but -- unlike Robin Hood -- give to meddlesome nudniks. That's something you won't find in your local newspaper because it's the news that just doesn't fit. His intolerance for those assumed to hold different value systems from his is so great, so mentally debilitating, so handicapping to DirtyKash's thought processes that whenever a will-o'-the-wisp of anti-intellectualism, however unreal, turns up anywhere, DirtyKash is off at a trot. To top that off, you'd think that someone would have done something by now to thwart DirtyKash's plans to suppress all news that portrays him in a bad light. Unfortunately, most people are quite happy to "go along to get along" and are rather reluctant to get him off our backs. It is imperative that we inform such people that no matter how bad you think DirtyKash's homilies are, I assure you that they are far, far worse than you think. DirtyKash can't help it; he just loves to teach the next generation how to hate -- and whom to hate.


Once, just once, I'd like to see DirtyKash's acolytes condemn -- without hesitation, without remorse -- all those who talk about you and me in terms which are not fit to be repeated. But until they do that (if they ever do that), we must realize that by allowing DirtyKash to yield this country to the forces of darkness, oppression, and tyranny, we are allowing him to play puppet master.


If DirtyKash opened his eyes, he'd realize that the most believable explanation for many of the destructive trends in politics, economics, morality, and other key areas over the past two years is that a secretive, incredibly unconscionable, well-organized movement has been striving relentlessly to disguise the complexity of color, the brutality of class, and the importance of religion and sexual identity in the construction and practice of careerism. While he is indisputably entitled to ignore good advice from intelligent people, he asserts that the Earth is flat. That assertion is not only untrue, but a conscious lie. At the risk of belaboring the obvious, by refusing to act, by refusing to examine DirtyKash's worldview from the perspective of its axiology (values) and epistemology (ways of knowing), we are giving DirtyKash the power to seize control over where we eat, sleep, socialize, and associate with others.


DirtyKash maliciously defames and damagingly misrepresents everyone and everything around him. There's a word for that: libel. By comparing today to even ten years ago and projecting the course we're on, I'd say we're in for an even more acrimonious, foolish, and belligerent society, all thanks to DirtyKash's notions. By working together, we can eschew cranky chauvinism. While this lighthearted statement adds sorely needed humor to an otherwise tense situation, DirtyKash says that he commands an army of robots that live in the hollow center of the earth and produce earthquakes whenever they feel like shaking things up a bit on the surface. You know, he can lie as much as he wants but he can't change the facts. If he could, he'd decidedly prevent anyone from hearing that his superstitious dream is starting to come true. Liberties are being killed by attrition. Cameralism is being installed by accretion. The only way that we can reverse these deluded trends is to think outside the box. To be precise, at no time in the past did what I call bestial overbearing-types shamble through the streets of cities, demanding rights they imagine some supernatural power has bestowed upon them.


DirtyKash has been deluding people into believing that women are spare parts in the social repertoire -- mere optional extras. Don't let him delude you, too. He will probably throw another hissy fit if we don't let him reduce us to acute penury. At least putting up with another DirtyKash hissy fit is easier than convincing DirtyKash's devotees that by writing this letter, I am truly sticking my head far above the parapet. The big danger is that DirtyKash will retaliate against me. He'll most likely try to force me to crawl under a rock and die, although another possibility is that he appears to have a problem with common sense and logic. I could write pages on the subject, but the following should suffice. Only the impartial and unimpassioned mind will even consider that DirtyKash attributes the most distorted, bizarre, and ludicrous "meanings" to ordinary personality charcteristics. For example, if you're shy, he calls you "fearful and withdrawn". If, instead, you're the outgoing and active type, DirtyKash says you're "acting out due to trauma". Why does he say such things? I can give you only my best estimate, made after long and anxious consideration, but I do not pose as an expert in these matters. I can say only that he keeps telling everyone within earshot that he is a martyr for freedom and a victim of philistinism. I'm guessing that DirtyKash read that on some Web site of dubious validity. More reliable sources generally indicate that his most hidebound tactic is to fabricate a phony war between tasteless, intellectually challenged gauleiters and inimical carousers. This way, DirtyKash can subjugate both groups into helping him place rapacious geeks at the top of the social hierarchy. I really don't want that to happen, which is why I'm telling you that DirtyKash is the picture of the insane person on the street, babbling to a tree, a wall, or a cloud, which cannot and does not respond to his jeremiads. Perhaps one day we will live in a world where good people are not troubled by fear of dishonest soi-disant do-gooders. Until that day arrives, however, we must spread the word that DirtyKash's sycophants often reverse the normal process of interpretation. That is, they value the unsaid over the said, the obscure over the clear. In the simplest of terms, many people are shocked when I tell them that the choice we face as a nation is whether to run our country ourselves or let slovenly bureaucrats run it for us. And I'm shocked that so many people are shocked. You see, I had thought everybody already knew that DirtyKash should think about how his taradiddles lead abominable boneheads to encourage the acceptance of scapegoating and demonization. If DirtyKash doesn't want to think that hard, perhaps he should just keep quiet. True, it is neither possible nor desirable to ignore the issue of Pyrrhonism here, but he is not a responsible citizen. Responsible citizens do something good for others. Responsible citizens unequivocally do not reward mediocrity. As I conclude this letter, let me remind you that my goal in writing it was not only to question DirtyKash's authority. I sought also to use this letter as a means to reinforce the contentions of all reasonable people and confute those of the most namby-pamby moochers you'll ever see.

[padrefanforever]

both of you guys need a hobby away from the computer....

[DirtyKash]

The topic I want to cover in this letter is big and complex, and I don't have much in the way of scientific data on it. Nor do I have a lot of hard statistics, just a number of general observations and a good bit of specific anecdotal material. Let me begin by citing a range of examples from the public sphere. For starters, HollywoodLeo's writings symbolize lawlessness, violence, and misguided rebellion -- extreme liberty for a few, even if the rest of us lose more than a little freedom. When asked to mend his ways, HollywoodLeo will give people a wink and a smile, but when the wheels begin to turn, it's business as usual. Yes, Virginia, he has been trying to convince us that divine ichor flows through his veins. This pathetic attempt to step on other people's toes deserves no comment other than to say that HollywoodLeo claims that unctuous vexatious-types have dramatically lower incidences of cancer, heart attacks, heart disease, and many other illnesses than the rest of us. I would say that that claim is 70% folderol, 20% twaddle, and 10% another rambunctious attempt to pull the levers of Maoism and oil the gears of credentialism. If anything will free us from the shackles of his truculent epigrams, it's knowledge of the world as it really is. It's knowledge that HollywoodLeo has been deluding people into believing that he can ignore rules, laws, and protocol without repercussion. Don't let him delude you, too.

There are some truths that are so obvious that for this very reason they are not seen, or at least not recognized, by ordinary people. One noteworthy example is the truism that honor means nothing to HollywoodLeo. Principles mean nothing to HollywoodLeo. All he cares about is how best to enact new laws forcing anyone who's not one of his lackeys to live in an environment that can, at best, be described as contemptuously tolerant. Contrast, for example, his solutions with those of prolix, paltry misers, and observe that there is no contrast. I, by (genuine) contrast, take the view that he is secretly saying that I should just go into hiding. Let me try to explain what I mean by that in a single sentence: Most of you reading this letter have your hearts in the right place. Now follow your hearts with actions.

I no longer believe that trends like family breakdown, promiscuity, and violence are random events. Not only are they explicitly glorified and promoted by HollywoodLeo's two-faced, lawless assertions, but he keeps telling everyone within earshot that yawping used-car salesmen should be fêted at wine-and-cheese fund-raisers. I'm guessing that HollywoodLeo read that on some Web site of dubious validity. More reliable sources generally indicate that he says that he is the way, the truth, and the light. You know, I don't think I have heard a less factually based statement in my entire life. Let us not sink to HollywoodLeo's level. Let us combat factionalism by exercising our right to speak out, to denounce HollywoodLeo's biases as totally unrepresentative of the values of this society. It should come as no shock to anyone that several things HollywoodLeo has said have brought me to the boiling point. The statement of his that made the strongest impression on me, however, was something to the effect of how he has a duty to conceal the facts and lie to the rest of us, under oath if necessary, perjuring himself to help disseminate the True Faith of mysticism. When I first became aware of his covert invasion into our thought processes, all I could think was how if he has spurred us to argue about his views, then HollywoodLeo may have accomplished a useful thing. I would be grateful if he would take a little time from his rigorous schedule to search for solutions that are more creative and constructive than the typically unambitious ones championed by peremptory loons. Of course, pigs will grow wings and fly before that ever happens.

Even when the facts don't fit, HollywoodLeo sometimes tries to use them anyway. He still maintains, for instance, that sadism is the key to world peace. By framing the question in this way, we see that it's not uncommon for him to speak with authority on subjects he clearly knows nothing about. That's just a fancy way of saying that HollywoodLeo says that the media should "create" news rather than report it. You know, he can lie as much as he wants but he can't change the facts. If he could, he'd sincerely prevent anyone from hearing that he presents one face to the public, a face that tells people what they want to hear. Then, in private, HollywoodLeo devises new schemes to saddle the economy with crippling debt.

I plan to shatter the illusion that HollywoodLeo is cunctipotent. Are you with me -- or against me? Whatever you decide, if HollywoodLeo is going to talk about higher standards, then he needs to live by those higher standards. Communism has served as the justification for the butchering, torture, and enslavement of more people than any other "ism". That's why it's HollywoodLeo's favorite; it makes it easy for him to progressively enlarge and increasingly centralize the means of oppression, exploitation, violence, and destruction. HollywoodLeo maliciously defames and damagingly misrepresents everyone and everything around him. There's a word for that: libel. One last thing: I find HollywoodLeo's reification of irrationalism a tad disconcerting.

[JayDawg27]

I can't believe I just read all that crap, it sucked me in like a bad movie. It was like reading an excerpt from the lord of the rings. Guys this isn't middle earth, it's a freaking SD Padres chat forum, holy cow that was painful.

PFF I thought you said this was different from that other crap shack forum we belong to. I honestly thought it was too until I read this, now I am not so sure. Guys lets talk Base ball and enjoy the Pads...

[padrefanforever]

JD.......if forgot to tell you not to visit the "random thought" thread unless you want to read some useless crap......

my bad

[JayDawg27]

No prob, it was good for a laugh

[HollywoodLeo]

I can't believe I just read all that crap, it sucked me in like a bad movie.

You read through it all? I didn't even read through it all.