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    From Ken Rosenthal of Foxsports.com
    One scout who has seen Yankees right-hander Joba Chamberlain three times this spring says that the pitcher's spotty performance in the Grapefruit League offers further evidence that he should be a reliever and not a starter.

    "The first couple of times, he was awful; the third time, he was pretty good, up to 95," the scout says. "It's hard for a guy who is used to going in fourth gear to pace himself. It's like telling a sprinter, 'Now you're going to run a marathon.'

    "He's got a bull-in-the-china-shop mentality. Just looking at him those first couple of times, it had to be hard for him to throttle back and pitch at a lower velocity. Their biggest challenge is taking a guy with a closer's mentality and putting him in a starter's situation.

    "In my heart of hearts, I think he's a bullpen guy, a closer."
    He is a big boy with bad mechanics. I just hope they see this before its too late like Mark Prior.

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    It's not that he has bad mechanics, Reefer. He just has a mentality that's tough to change, because he's a bit stubborn. It's just a matter of whether the Yankees think they can change it or not
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    No, he has bad mechanics. He doesn't use his legs like he should and is almost all arm. Expect a lot of shoulder problems. Last year was just a precursor when he had his bout of shoulder tendinitis. Mark Prior had bad mechanics too and we all saw what happened to him. Using him for an inning at a time will be best for Joba and the Yankees.

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    Re: I Am Not Alone

    Well then that's different what this scout is saying
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    His mentality plays into it as well don't get me wrong. Scout agrees that he is best served in the bullpen. Bad mechanics and closer's mentality, not a good recipe for a starter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodLeo View Post
    Mark Prior not only had good mechanics, Mark Prior was the example pointed to by a lot of experts as somebody with "perfect" mechanics.

    Whatever caused his never ending bouts with arm problems it wasn't his mechanics.
    I know Rick Peterson and the entire American Sports Medicine Institute would disagree. SI had a great article about it when talking about Lincecum's flawless mechanics. Prior's mechanics were flawed and Peterson saw that when Prior was at USC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by love_that_reefer View Post
    I know Rick Peterson and the entire American Sports Medicine Institute would disagree. SI had a great article about it when talking about Lincecum's flawless mechanics. Prior's mechanics were flawed and Peterson saw that when Prior was at USC.
    I deleted that post because I went to search for articles backing up my statement and found this.

    Mark Prior's Pitching Mechanics: A Different Perspective
    LeagueTeamyearsRecordWild CardDivisionPennantsTitles
    MSLSan Diego Padres2034-20592,217-1,9951631
    TBLArizona Diamondbacks2005-20181,216-1,0531963
    TSSLSan Diego Padres2015-2021, 2024-20281,017-9280732
    TSSLTexas Rangers2029-2033396-4140000

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    Good for you Leo!

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    Wow. That's a very interesting find. A great article backed up by visual evidence.

    I still don't see what makes you think Joba has bad mechanics though Reefer
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    Re: I Am Not Alone

    You win.

    That's enough for me. I can totally see how he's putting unnecessary stress on his arm. I wasn't disagreeing with you Reefer, but I didn't see where you were getting this from. Now I see it. We'll see what happens with Joba, but I can see where the fears are coming from now
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    Thanks Leo. You can see it if you watch him closely. He is too much arm, not enough lower body. I really learned a lot from that Lincecum article and hearing things Lincecum's dad has said in talking about other pitchers along with Rick Peterson's insight. I now know what to look for in evaluating pitchers.

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