You do know that if you're on base, you're not making an out. Swisher is better at not making an out. For their career: outs/plate appearances:
PA OU Swisher PA OU Nady 0522 0364
0.697 0404 0291 0.720 0672 0438 0.652 0356 0248 0.697 0659 0423 0.642 0512 0355 0.693 0588 0410 0.697 0470 0332 0.706 2512 1683 0.670 0607 0405 0.667
2434 1694 0.696
67% of Swisher's PA have ended in outs. Almost 70% of Nady's have resulted in outs. Wanna try that again?
Basing it on talent? So you DO want Swisher!Oh yeah, I would be managing a lot longer especially if the other managers thought like you. Better defense and a better hitter stays in my lineup and won't be benched for the lesser player. Not basing it on "flukes", just talent.
Clogging the bases? Thanks Dusty. Walks means you're not making out so the guy behind you gets a chance. Outs means the guy behind you gets no chance. The more guys that come up, the better the chance runs are scored.And yes, these "singles" are more important in the bottom half of the order than walks. Singles can move runners and even drive in runs. What a crazy concept!! Walks don't drive in runs unless the bases are loaded. And what a player does once on base matters too. Swisher isn't fast. OBP for slow guys like that are misleading.
But you neglect the advantage in BB's. If you cite BA, you have to cite BB's too.This is starting to bore me. You value a slight lead in OPS, I value the enormous gap in BA. I'll take the better hitter with RISP and better defender. You like Swisher, I like Nady. Let's call the whole thing off
RISP is a fluky stat, one I don't put much stock in.
I told you we'd go in circles. Twas fun though.