Willie Randolph is a dumb shit

[Kingdom]

Someone new or someone not recycled as much. Teams have got to stop tapping into ESPN's analyst pool. There's a reason why they're on Baseball Tonight and not managing.

[NYgiantsfan5689]

Larry Bowa is a very good manager who knows the game and will light a fire under his team's ass when necessary, something Randolph simply fails at doing. Although I really really like Randolph, no one can be good at everything. However, I think Willie's knowledge of the game and strategy is unparalleled

[Kingdom]

His shtick didn't work well with the phillies. He makes a good bench coach/base coach/assistant type. But not as a head manager.

[ljshorty89]

I don't know. I don't love Bowa, simply because I don't know if he will be able to properly manage these guys. I think the better choice would be either Bench Coach Jerry Manuel(already has a rapport with the players), or maybe give a shot to Gary Carter who I believe is managing in the Mets minor league system. But I don't know if those guys are right either. Maybe if Willie wants, he can stay on as bench coach if they promote Jerry Manuel, but I don't know what to do right now.

[browntown653]

I definitely didn't condone what Randolph said, I just merely said that O'Connor is an idiot for publishing that. He pretty much tarnished his career.

Wrong.

It was never established that the conversation was off the record, and Willie doesn't seem to particularly care about it.

Larry Bowa is a very good manager who knows the game and will light a fire under his team's ass when necessary, something Randolph simply fails at doing. Although I really really like Randolph, no one can be good at everything. However, I think Willie's knowledge of the game and strategy is unparalleled

I have so many things to disagree with in this little blurb, I won't waste my time.

[ljshorty89]

Actually, according to Willie it was an off the record chat. He didn't say that it was specifically stated as off the record, but that had reportedly had many off the record chats in which the record was not blatantly stated. It's something that the guy should have known to publish, because he will probably not get much info from this organization ever again.

[NYgiantsfan5689]

Wrong.

It was never established that the conversation was off the record, and Willie doesn't seem to particularly care about it.

A good reporter has a good enough rapport with his contacts (and it was stated that Willie and this guy were good friends) that he should know what off and on the record stuff is. You shouldn't have to state every time you talk to someone if it's on or off the record. Pedro Gomez said it himself, clearly you weren't listening at that one.

[Dry1313]

You all miss the point.


He's doing some classic NY managing.

"Focus on me so that my players can work out of their slumps...then they do, and everyone forgets that I was ever on the 'Hot Seat' in the first place"

How is no one realizing this?

[Slyder]

At least your manager isnt Dusty Baker. Guys thicker than a dang Redwood tree.

[browntown653]

A good reporter has a good enough rapport with his contacts (and it was stated that Willie and this guy were good friends) that he should know what off and on the record stuff is. You shouldn't have to state every time you talk to someone if it's on or off the record. Pedro Gomez said it himself, clearly you weren't listening at that one.

Clearly I was, and IMO Randolph is just using this off the record BS to save his ass.

[rockin500]

if its not off the record, then it is up to the discretion of the reporter. There is no "understood" that it was off the record. Its just not the smart play. The number one rule in sources and all that is to make damned sure its off the record.

[NYgiantsfan5689]

if its not off the record, then it is up to the discretion of the reporter. There is no "understood" that it was off the record. Its just not the smart play. The number one rule in sources and all that is to make damned sure its off the record.

This may be true, but I'm going to take the word of Pedro Gomez more than you Rockin, sorry. No offense.

[ljshorty89]

Maybe it wasn't off the record, maybe it was. I'll never know. But what I do know is that Ian O'Connor probably won't get too much info from the Mets organization. In that regard, he's made his life much more difficult.

[rockin500]

This may be true, but I'm going to take the word of Pedro Gomez more than you Rockin, sorry. No offense.

be my guest, i couldnt give a rats ass. The point is, in that line of work (or any line really), protecting number 1 is most important. by not explicitly stating it as such, thats not looking out for number 1.

[browntown653]

This may be true, but I'm going to take the word of Pedro Gomez more than you Rockin, sorry. No offense.

Why don't you ask Pedro Gomez about this situation before you assume what he would believe here?