Arizona Diamondbacks: Worst OOTP Franchise Ever?

[Kingdom]

As most of us know, Arizona was ran by the legendary mntwinsfan for the longest of times. His achievements include...I'm not entirely sure he ever made the playoffs with HollywoodLeo in charge, maybe ages ago when Molina was in charge but I'm not entirely sure it was mntwinsfan running Arizona at that time (I'll defer that to OM). I feel like they went through a series of brief cameo GM appearances until I took over but I didn't pay much attention to them (but has anyone really ever?)

edit- mntwinsfan took over in 2034, by my count he definitely made the playoffs once, maybe twice.

Since 2034, Arizona has only achieved a winning record 6 times and they haven't seen .500 or better since 2053! So, in nearly 40 seasons, 6 winning records. That's almost unbelieveable that they didn't run into more OOTP dumb luck, but perhaps some of that dumb luck contributed to the 6 times they did make it.

Amazingly my 38 win achievement last season was not even their worst season (so I've got goals here). I'm not sure I've ever won that few (not that I was trying, but still).

Perhaps the saddest, or one of the saddest, cause let's be honest, there's a big ole swimming pool of saddddddness with this franchise, but anyways, one of the saddest facts that helped contribute to their mired existence: From 2058 to 2062, five straight years of losing records, winning at most 76 games, this franchise had zero....ZERO..first round draft selections. The next drafts produced a 2nd overall pick in Del Griffith, who never even made it to the majors; a 6th overall pick in Lee Porter, who bloomed late into a solid infielder; and 8th overall pick in Marvin Hinton, who still has not fully developed by age 25. Throw in 2nd overall pick in LeBron James, who I assume lost talent cause there's no way a 6 contact guy goes top 5 right? So 5 years of complete roster management ineptitude plus 4 years of high draft pick terrible luck.. and you thought the real life Sacramento Kings had it bad (they do, though).

Hopefully that starts to turn around a bit, although it's been a bumpy start. But dang. That's practically a decade of "lottery" picks down the drain! Couple that with stagnation, I'm surprised Bud Selig didn't try to hijack MSL to contract the Diamondbacks.

Worst OOTP franchise ever nomination submitted. Ever see worse in other leagues? Or as bad.

[Bizkit]

There was a time between 2044 and 2058 where I had no luck drafting. 14 straight seasons of draft picks never working out. Best season I had was 75 in 2058 which you could see by then my drafts were finally working out.

Sometimes you just think OOTP has it out for you.



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[OrioleMagic]

mntwinsfan was by far the worst OOTP GM I have seen. Maybe there was a reason for it. He claimed he was busy working a lot. He'd post a block leading up to the deadline, initiate PMs, and never come back on until after the deadline.

Revitalizing AZ will be quite a feat.

[Kingdom]

mntwinsfan was by far the worst OOTP GM I have seen. Maybe there was a reason for it. He claimed he was busy working a lot. He'd post a block leading up to the deadline, initiate PMs, and never come back on until after the deadline.

Revitalizing AZ will be quite a feat.

I'm glad I'm not a drinker, cause this team's history would cause me to be more plastered than Leo and Trendy combined.

[Kingdom]

Hammer has informed me that LeBron did lose talent, but lost it during a time he could have been repaired. Thanks AWOL GM PERSON.

:facepalm:

[Hammer]

well he took a couple hits. but i think the first significant one... one of those "Lost Contact, Lost Power, Lost Discipline" 3 for 1 jobbies... was during a point where he couldve been restored. but yea, no gm. im pretty sure lebron was a 9/10/10/10/9, or something similar to that. he was a legit stud to go 2 overall... he couldve gone one, but i think om just preferred a pitcher in that draft.

at least leo doesnt take away 1st round picks outright from gm-less teams though, like molina did. that just made horrible teams, even more barren.

[Kingdom]

well he took a couple hits. but i think the first significant one... one of those "Lost Contact, Lost Power, Lost Discipline" 3 for 1 jobbies... was during a point where he couldve been restored. but yea, no gm. im pretty sure lebron was a 9/10/10/10/9, or something similar to that. he was a legit stud to go 2 overall... he couldve gone one, but i think om just preferred a pitcher in that draft.

at least leo doesnt take away 1st round picks outright from gm-less teams though, like molina did. that just made horrible teams, even more barren.

Arizona technically hasn't been GMless much. But technically they've been GMless since 2034

[HollywoodLeo]

Lebron was easily the best hitter in that draft when I made it.

Iirc Steph Curry went first who was easily the best pitcher.

[HollywoodLeo]

As of 2060, which is what I have the all time history updated through on my CPU excel file, Arizona only has the 6th worst all time record by win-loss in MSL, though.

Philly, Cleveland, Anaheim, White Sox, and Detroit all had worse, in that order. So by sheer Win/Loss record Detroit holds this title for MSL through 2060.

I'll see how the next 11 seasons play out as I actually update that thing, which I'm actually slowly working on for the first time in about two real-time years, lol

[HollywoodLeo]

Oh, and mntwinsfan has made the playoffs before because I have him with a 3-6 record in it.

I'm not sure though if that was with Arizona or with Philly who he actually had from 2016-2025, at least according to the Almanac files which is all I had to go by for seasons before I was in the league.

I'm pretty sure he made the playoffs before I took over because I don't recall ever having him in it.

Arizona as a franchise through 2060 is 17-29 in the playoffs with no WS appearances. I'm fairly certain most of that was early on. I think I recall them being fairly respectable in the early going with a lot of GM names I never heard of.

[HollywoodLeo]

They won the division in 2010, 2012, 2025, 2026, 2027, 2030, 2031, 2033, and 2035

So for a brief stretch there they were good. 2035 was, of course, the season after mntwinsfan took over so he was likely riding the coattails of the previous GM with that division win. (which looks like was his solitary appearance in the playoffs)

Some guy named RS17 had them during that stretch.

[OrioleMagic]

RockSports17. LOL I think Kingdom remembers him.

[Kingdom]

Oh..rocksports...bleh

[Kingdom]

RockSports17. LOL I think Kingdom remembers him.

...he was mach before mach....

[Kingdom]

I think rocksports had Detroit too for a spell. Unless that was mission's. He changed his username a few times so he's probably listed under multiple places.