Free Agency Solution

[HollywoodLeo]

If it plan A..Then delete the prospects. The rest of the league shouldn't benefit from them being taken off PIT.

While I'm not opposed to just deleting them I don't see how the rest of the league benefits from it any more than they would have had Molina done it like that from the onset.

[Porter]

I actually don't mind if Pittsburgh is let off the hook.

I'm concerned more with the overall financial makeup of the league than I am with hoping Pittsburgh pays for their lame ploy.

Let them off the hook in the name of not having underdeveloped prospects being paid like super stars.

its more realistic in the way the league is set up financially. I say don't let the "genius" off the hook. If he's the almighty GM he says he is. Let him dig himself of that hole.

[Slyder]

Contraction was brought about because the league needed a change. It was also done (I believe) to improve the overall depth of the league. How does deleting these guys help anyone?

[Porter]

I've laid out my problem with your idea. It's heavily flawed and he still gets out of those contracts, no matter what.

I'd much rather let him off the hook with plan A cause the first round was a ****ing joke. And will remain one otherwise.

He would be bankrupt by the time he got out those contracts.

Edit: I don't think of Plan B if he wasn't arrogant about it. At least General in Hybrid didnt call a whole league an idiot with his spending spree.

[HollywoodLeo]

its more realistic in the way the league is set up financially.

How so?

In real life, unless your name is Stephen Strasburg, you get paid a nice bonus and sent to the minors with a minor league paycheck.

And these guys aren't even Strasburg-quality prospects.

[Porter]

I mean the financial model, not the contract itself.

[OrioleMagic]

I actually don't mind if Pittsburgh is let off the hook.

I'm concerned more with the overall financial makeup of the league than I am with hoping Pittsburgh pays for their lame ploy.

Let them off the hook in the name of not having underdeveloped prospects being paid like super stars.

This is right. We need to think about the best interests of the league. Sabu still gets the benefit of the MLB signings which if I could do it all over again, I would have offered 10+ million for at least one of those guys.

Contraction was brought about because the league needed a change. It was also done (I believe) to improve the overall depth of the league. How does deleting these guys help anyone?

Another great post. Deleting the prospects should be a last option.

He would be bankrupt by the time he got out those contracts.

Edit: I don't think of Plan B if he wasn't arrogant about it. At least General in Hybrid didnt call a whole league an idiot with his spending spree.

Porter, please don't take this personal. Sabu is a great guy. DJ was the asshole. (Bryanman was worse than an asshole. LOL) Your Plan B is clearly to stick it to Sabu at the expense of over-complicating the league.

To serve the purpose of contraction as Slyder so eloquently posted, these prospects need to be spread evenly throughout the remaining 24 teams.

Porter, please let this go and lets get onto OOTP as we know it.

[Kingdom]

And the contraction served its purpose, we had a round of drafting where we all got good players or used the picks as trade bait for good players. We have improved the depth of the league, and will continue to do so (if you look at the draft pools, we're all practically guaranteed a 5 star prospect that's good and somewhat developed). To me, if we decided that it's fair to Sabu that none of us get the prospects, it's not a big deal, there's still a lot of talent to be signed. I would much rather do that than whatever it is Porter's plan is trying to do, but I'm not saying it's what we NEED to do.

[HollywoodLeo]

Sabu tried to take advantage of a loophole.

I may not fully agree with his "Everyone had the same opportunity" argument, but nevertheless everyone did.

To try and stick it too him because he took advantage of the system at the expense of the league is a bit much.

For the sake of the league we shouldn't let him get by on the loophole, but I don't think it's fair to tell him to suck it up by pulling the loophole out and sticking him with the finances.

Plan A makes the most sense. It spreads out the prospects evenly, they don't get paid like established stars, and we're not sticking Pittsburgh with a horrendously huge payroll just to be vindictive.

[Kingdom]

He would be bankrupt by the time he got out those contracts.

If Molina is willing to actually manually edit those contracts every season, sure, he might go bankrupt. But it's over complicating things, and putting more work on Molina. In addition, I stated that not everyone going into free agency was aware of the loopholes regarding prospects- well the same can be applied to Sabu. When he signed those prospects, yes he was taking advantage of the loophole, but he was not aware he'd get extreme punishment. I'm all for a re-do and try something else, but I'm not for making it highly unfair to any given party.

[Kingdom]

Or what Leo said.

[Molina00]

Porter, please don't take this personal. Sabu is a great guy. DJ was the asshole. (Bryanman was worse than an asshole. LOL)

That's for sure. Bryan was the first, and so far only, guy I have ever had to ban from the league. DJ actually came close once, but he didn't air his problems out on the board like Bryan did. I sure am glad I don't have GM's like that anymore.

[Molina00]

Since it seems the purpose of Plan B was just to stick to Sabu, I have to go back to OM's plan as the one that would be most beneficial to the league. Perhaps do like OM suggested and do a sort of 2nd contraction draft round, then I could delete the remaining blue star players. I am all for improving the overall depth of the league.

[cjkalt]

Yea you either need to have the prospects:

A) Spread out evenly
B) Open Bidding Process
C) Deleted

I really don't care which it is but any one of the 3 is fine with me

[Kingdom]

I would just auto it, and hell you can have PIT receive the first pick so they get whoever the top guy is out there. Which I guess would not be fair to some but I don't know. There is no one definitive method that will be fair to us all, you just have to go with what works for the majority. At any rate, just put a restriction on prospects and continue on with round 2 of free agency eh? After rosters are fixed.