Manny suspended 50 games for using PEDs!!!

[love_that_reefer]

actually isnt what he is allegedly using supposed to PREVENT the man tits? Sounds like its something Arod shoulda used.

Or Bob Hamelin.

[Providence A's]

Manny quit on his team in Boston. Was he really that holy?

that's not at all what I was saying. I'm referring to the Sox fans that would always point to the whole Mitchell report and say, "see, no Red Sox players" even though Mitchell is/was an employee of the Red Sox (at the time). They'd always claim no Red Sox players used PEDs (they as Sox fans in general). That's the holier than you attitude I'm talking about. Now all the teams, as most people already knew anyway, have had players that used PEDs.

[Providence A's]

Who are we to prove that he did it with the Red Sox. Were you in the Red Sox organization?

you honestly think he all of the sudden just started using? are you serious? lay off the kool-aid. really.

it is more than reasonable to safely assume he was at least using last year because he was going to be a FA at the end of the year and the whole time he said he wanted a 4 year / $100 mil deal. Obviously, he didn't get that, but he was playing for that and in order to come close to that he certainly could not afford a dip in his numbers. of course, no one here works for MLB and none of know shit for 100% about a god damn thing related to MLB, but one can make more than logical assumptions based on the information at hand.

[love_that_reefer]

The Calgary Vipers of the independent Golden Baseball League are prepared to offer a contract to suspended outfielder Manny Ramirez.
At least someone has a sense of humor about this whole thing. If you've been living under a rock, Ramirez was suspended 50 games for violating Major League Baseball's performance-enhancing drug policy on Thursday. The Golden Baseball League apparently has no such restrictions.

Manny would probably take it just to laugh in the faces of MLB.

[HollywoodLeo]

i just dont care. we accept it in football, but get all holier than thou about it in baseball?

he still belongs in the hall. Bonds Belongs, Arod belongs, Raffy belongs, Big mac belongs....

We accept it in football unless your name is Shawne Merriman.

[ljshorty89]

It's just dumb to assume. We can assume ANYTHING. Maybe we should just assume that everyone in MLB had taken roids at least once. I mean, come on. I'm admitting that it's something you can question, because now there is a possibility. But assuming is a completely different animal, that's implying that you've DECIDED he did. That assumption is stupid. Barry Zito plays guitar and had long hair, he MUST be a stoner. I mean, it's just dumb. Especially because, as Manny said, he had passed 15 or so drug tests in the last 5 years.

[love_that_reefer]

Its not dumb to assume a cheated cheater as far back as last year. I'm sorry but its just not. It is dumb to assume everyone in MLB took steroids once because there is not a shred of evidence to suggest that. Manny now has evidence of cheating.

[Providence A's]

your analogy is way off. all guys with long hair and play guitar = stoners is a stereotype to say the least, but is also not the same as saying a player just tested positive for PEDs and it's probably not the first time he's used, but rather the first time he was caught.

really, is that you Peter Gammons? did you hijack LJ's account? I'm surprised to say the least.

[Porter]

Why rehash something that could be argued until the end of time?

I said what I had to say and I'm not going to repeat it 939038409384 times. Agree to Disagree. And leave it at that.

[Providence A's]

Why rehash something that could be argued until the end of time?

I said what I had to say and I'm not going to repeat it 939038409384 times. Agree to Disagree. And leave it at that.

everything could be argued until the end of time here. you're right, let's just shut the whole damn place down then. there's no point.

[Porter]

You knew very damn well what I meant.

[Providence A's]

lock this thread if it's pointless then. we can all go back to the much more important high school popularity contest instead.

[Porter]

Nah Id rather continue to get Carlos Silva banished to Siberia. Or Laugh at Mariano Rivera's mistakes. How bout start up world peace.

[love_that_reefer]

Locking it would be communism

[Porter]

At least reefer and I agree on that.

You guys can keep arguing. I just gave my 2 cents and don't feel the need to give more lol.