Baseball Hall of Fame Vote

[catman]

The enshrinees will be announced later today. Here is the way ESPN sees the vote going: ESPN.com's Hall of Fame Ballot - MLB - ESPN
Comments?

[Kingdom]

Pedro Gomez votes Jay Bell over Jack Morris or Tim Raines? All that coverage of Bonds ****ed him.

[love_that_reefer]

Rickey Henderson and Andre Dawson should be the two players going in this year.

[Dry1313]

Henderson, Rice, Dawson, Raines, Blyleven all belong.

I think Henderson, Raines and Rice all go.

[NYgiantsfan5689]

I agree Blyleven belongs

It's people like Tim Kurkjien that are going to ruin the Hall of Fame. Voting for that many people? Seriously? It's going to be the Hall of Way Too Many People That Were Just Plain Good if everyone voted like him

[Dry1313]

Oh, and McGwire deserves in also

[browntown653]

Henderson, Raines, Blyleven (should be)
Henderson, Rice (will be)

[perforatededge54]

I agree with Brownie. It's kind of a joke that Rice gets in--seems the tentacles of the Boston media force have wrapped themselves around the rest of the BWAA. It will be interesting to see what happens with borderline Yankees cases like Bernie Williams and Mike Mussina over the years.

[browntown653]

I don't think Bernie has a shot - I think Moose is gonna be close though.

[Providence A's]

even if Rice doesn't get in, the veterans committee will vote him in. I don't think he deserves to be in and it has nothing to do with the fact that he played for the Red Sox. I do agree, however, that if he played for a team like the Royals or something, it wouldn't even be close.

[cjkalt]

I agree with Brownie. It's kind of a joke that Rice gets in--seems the tentacles of the Boston media force have wrapped themselves around the rest of the BWAA. It will be interesting to see what happens with borderline Yankees cases like Bernie Williams and Mike Mussina over the years.

Rice hit .298 in his career, with 382 homers, 1,451 runs batted in, and a .502 slugging percentage.

from 1975-1986 Rice knocked in more runs than anyone - 1,276 to 1,221 for Mike Schmidt and 1,147 for Dave Winfield.

He was the most dominant hitter of his era, he deserves to go. Definitely more than Mike Mussina and Bernie (but his postseason #'s make him a HOF in my mind)

[Dry1313]

Rice hit .298 in his career, with 382 homers, 1,451 runs batted in, and a .502 slugging percentage.

Graig Nettles is comparable. Only difference is that Nettles was always the second best fielder at his position, and Rice wasn't. Dwight Evans was almost the same player too...

from 1975-1986 Rice knocked in more runs than anyone - 1,276 to 1,221 for Mike Schmidt and 1,147 for Dave Winfield.

Over a 6 year span Don Mattingly averaged per season 25+ HR, well over .300, 90 runs, 100 RBI, .375 OBP, .550 SLG, a Silver Slugger, a trip to the All Star Game, a Gold Glove and many MVP votes.

Too bad it isn't the Hall of Dominant Stretches (which by the way, Rice's stretch wasn't even that dominant, since he was trailing in several other categories).

He was the most dominant hitter of his era, he deserves to go. Definitely more than Mike Mussina and Bernie (but his postseason #'s make him a HOF in my mind)

As evidenced by what? His 1 MVP, his 1 GG, his good 10 year stretch? Andres Galarraga had a good 10 year stretch too. So did Carlos Delgado. Neither are HOF.

Mussina on the other hand is going to get in...as I've argued with actual real statistics over his career, not some arbitrary 10 year period. Rice had 1, maybe 2 HOF years in his career; '78 and '83. He also did not have continued excellency, got out way too much, and didn't walk.

He was a nice player, but not a deserving HOF. He'll get in anyway.

[perforatededge54]

Mo Vaughn was also a dominant hitter at one point, I don't see him getting much consideration. "Domination" isn't a tangible attribute, much like someone being clutch or a club house leader. Jason Giambi has better numbers than Jim Rice (unadjusted of course, but it's not like Rice played in the dead ball era) but no one would even think that Giambi is a Hall of Famer (including myself).

And he is absolutely not more worthy than Mike Mussina. Electing Jim Rice would be a shame much like not electing Mussina.

[perforatededge54]

I was talking to someone about this the other day-wouldn't it be funny to compile a Hall of Intangible Made Up Adjectives. Derek Jeter (CLUTCH!), Jim Rice (DOMINANT!) and David Eckstein (JESUS!) would definitely be first ballot guys.

[Providence A's]

28 people didn't vote for Rickey Henderson