What is the best statistic for accessing a hitter's worth?

[realmofotalk]

Pierre's capable of getting the respectable 3 base hits out of 10 at-bats. It's just that he often doesn't draw the addtional 1 base-on-ball out of 10 at-bats, and that's where he loses .100 points in on-base percentage.

[Kingdom]

But he doesn't hit a homerun in 250 at bats and drives in rbi's once every 50 at bats... unless you get style points for bunts and stuff.

[realmofotalk]

Maybe his RISP numbers suck. All I know is that a base hit means the ball is put into play.

[rockin500]

Its clearly OPS if you are going to have to narrow it down to one stat. a batter with a .400 OBP but a .375 slugging percentage isnt as valuable as a guy with .375 OBP and .475 Slugging percentage.

[Kingdom]

Maybe his RISP numbers suck. All I know is that a base hit means the ball is put into play.

Stop it. You defending Juan Pierre is sacrilegious, or something.

[Foster]

But he doesn't hit a homerun in 250 at bats and drives in rbi's once every 50 at bats... unless you get style points for bunts and stuff.

Well MLB is going to add the "Freestyle" event to the All Star Festival next year.

So finally he has a purpose.

[DirtyKash]

I like RBI as well.

[ljshorty89]

Gotta be OPS. It factors in how often you get on base, AND the value of the hits you're getting

[Kingdom]

I like RBI as well.

RBI Baseball? me too

[love_that_reefer]

Depends on the individual. Comparing Juan Pierre's OPS to a Alfonso Soriano is retarded since they are different types of players. A slow ass catcher can get a good OBP due to walks but does it matter if they can;t advance the extra base when needed or are an easy force out. One stat cannot do anyone justice. I will take BA w/RISP as my favorite.

[brewersfan19]

great stat reefer!! I like that stat too!!!

[catman]

Runs produced is a good way to determine a hitter's worth. To get the total, add runs scored to RBI and subtract HRs.

[HollywoodLeo]

Why do you subtract HRs? Is he not producing a run by hitting it?

And why is the run scored more valuable for the individual player when it's someone else's doing that helps him score it?

[realmofotalk]

SLG% needs to be tweaked a bit. The difference between a triple and a double is baserunning speed and luck, for example, a ball that caroms off the wall. I know, it washes out because of the sluggers' home run total and the lightweights don't hit enough triples to make much of a difference in their SLG%.

[HollywoodLeo]

Why do you subtract HRs? Is he not producing a run by hitting it?

And why is the run scored more valuable for the individual player when it's someone else's doing that helps him score it?

Don't know why I asked the first question. I guess if you didn't subtract the HR you'd essentially be counting the run twice.

I'm still curious about the 2nd question, however.