Random Fantasy Football 2014 Rumblings

[Witlon]

Figured I'd start us off proper, since I'm diving in to Mock Draft Season.

Anyone(Hammer, Kingdom, Mach?) interested in getting together a consensus pre-season rankings list?

[Hammer]

ive only really put got a top 10 together right now, but ill throw a top 50 or so together in the next couple days if you wanna do something.

1. mccoy
2. charles
3. forte
4. peterson
5. calvin
6. peyton
7. lacy
8. bell
9. murray
10. bernard

something like that... theres some touch ups to be had

[Witlon]

I was thinking more like Yahoo!'s Consensus, maybe, if everyone has the time.

Top 25 QB, 70 RB, 70 WR, 25 TE, 20 K, 20 DEF?

Currently though, my Top 10 is running:
1. McCoy
2. Charles
3. Peterson
4. Forte
5. Lacy
6. Calvin
7. Graham
8. Lynch
9. Foster
10. AJ Green

[Hammer]

oh, yea sure, i could do that.

[Hammer]

quarterbacks:
THE BEST: geno smith
1. peyton
2. brees
3. rodgers
4. newton
5. stafford
6. romo
7. luck
8. kaepernick
9. brady
10. ryan
11. rg3
12. foles
13. rivers
14. palmer
15. cutler
16. wilson
17. roethlisberger
18. flacco
19. eli
20. mccown
21. tannehill
22. dalton
23. bradford
24. manziel
25. schaub

rbs [ppr]:
1. mccoy
2. charles
3. forte
4. peterson
5. lacy
6. le'veon bell
7. murray
8. bernard
9. foster
10. ball
11. lynch
12. stacy
13. martin
14. bush
15. spiller
16. mathews
17. jennings [nyg]
18. tate
19. sankey
20. morris
21. cj0k
22. gore
23. vereen
24. ellington
25. gerhart
26. rice
27. mojo
28. deangelo williams
29. joique bell
30. pierre thomas
31. sproles
32. woodhead
33. devonta freeman
34. lamar miller
35. mcfadden
36. ridley
37. jon stewart
38. fred jackson
39. richardson
40. christine michael
41. steven jackson
42. khiry robinson
43. terrance west
44. ivory
45. moreno
46. pierce
47. jeremy hill
48. ahmad bradshaw
49. carlos hyde
50. stepfan taylor

wrs:
1. calvin
2. aj green
3. demaryius
4. marshall
5. dez
6. julio
7. jeffery
8. brown
9. cobb
10. garcon
11. nelson
12. allen
13. vince jackson
14. welker
15. desean jackson
16. harvin
17. cruz
18. andre johnson
19. tate
20. fitzgerald
21. nicks
22. edelman
23. watkins
24. patterson
25. crabtree
26. manny sanders
27. hotrod
28. cooks
29. hilton
30. colston
31. floyd
32. wright
33. decker
34. maclin
35. mike evans
36. terrance williams
37. wayne
38. austin
39. cooper
40. shorts
41. steve smith
42. douglas
43. torrey smith
44. boykin
45. wallace
46. bowe
47. amendola
48. marvin jones
49. hunter
50. greg jennings

tight ends:
1. graham
2. jules thomas
3. gronk
4. witten
5. cameron
6. pitta
7. davis
8. reed
9. ertz
10. rudolph
11. olson
12. clay
13. bennett
14. green
15. walker
16. ebron
17. miller
18. eifert
19. toilolo
20. cook
21. amaro
22. gates
23. allen
24. bostick
25. daniels

k:
1. prater
2. tucker
3. gostkowski
4. hauschka
5. novak
6. dawson
7. walsh
8. crosby
9. vinatieri
10. bailey
11. graham
12. gould
13. folk
14. zuerlein
15. henery
16. jano

d/st:
1. seahawks
2. panthers
3. cardinals
4. 49ers
5. broncos
6. chiefs
7. rams
8. bengals
9. saints
10. jets
11. pats
12. browns
13. ravens
14. eagles
15. bucs
16. texans

edited wrs and added in tes 7/19

[Witlon]

Anyone interested in doing this, please do. The more rankings we get, the more precise the rankings will be. (I did throw together a quick PPR running back ranking so that someone of the guys wouldn't be insanely skewed.)

EARLY CONSENSUS QB(7/13/14)
1. Peyton Manning, DEN
2. Drew Brees, NO
3. Aaron Rodgers, GB
4. Matthew Stafford, DET
5. Cam Newton, CAR
6. Andrew Luck, IND
T-7. Tony Romo, DAL
T-7. Matt Ryan, ATL
T-7. Robert Griffin III, WAS
10. Tom Brady, NE
11. Nick Foles, PHI
12. Collin Kaepernick, SF
13. Phillip Rivers, SD
T-14. Russell Wilson, SEA
T-14. Jay Cutler, CHI
T-16. Carson Palmer, ARI
T-16. Ben Roethlisberger, PIT
18. Josh McCown, TB
19. Eli Manning, NYG
20. Ryan Tannehill, MIA
21. Joe Flacco, BAL
T22. Andy Dalton, CIN
T22. Johnny Manziel, CLE
24. Sam Bradford, STL
25. Matt Schaub, OAK
26. Jake Locker, TEN

EARLY PPR RB RANKINGS
1. McCoy, PHI
2. Charles, KC
3. Forte, CHI
4. Peterson, MIN
T5. Bell, PIT
T5. Lacy, GB
T7. Bernard, CIN
T7. Foster, HOU
9. Murray, DAL
T10. Ball, DEN
T10. Lynch, SEA
12. Stacy, STL
13. Martin, TB
T-14. Bush, DET
T-14. Spiller, BUF
16. Matthews, SD
17. Sankey, TEN
18. Jennings, NYG
19. Ellington, ARI
T20. Vereen, NE
T20. Morris, WAS
T22. Tate, CLE
T22. Johnson, NYJ
T22. Gore, SF
T22. Gerhart, JAC
26. Bell, DET
27. Thomas, NO
28. Jones-Drew, OAK
29. Williams, CAR
30. Rice, BAL
31. Miller, MIA
32. Sproles, PHI
33. Richardson, IND
34. Ridley, NE
35. SJackson, ATL
T36. Woodhead, SD
T36. Freeman, ATL
38. FJackson, BUF
39. McFadden, OAK
40. Pierce, BAL
41. Moreno, MIA
42. West, CLE
T-43. Stewart, CAR
T-43. Ivory, NYJ
45. Michael, SEA
46. Robinson, NO
47. Greene, TEN
48. Helu, WAS
49. Starks, GB
T50. Hill, CIN
T50. Ingram, NO
T52. Wilson, NYG
T52. Bradshaw, IND
53. Hyde, SF
54. Taylor, ARI
55. Taliaferro, BAL

Early WR rankings
1. Johnson, DET
2. Green, CIN
3. Thomas, DEN
4. Bryant, DAL
T5. Marshall, CHI
T5. Jones, ATL
7. Jeffery, CHI
8. Brown, PIT
T9. Cobb, GB
T9. Jackson, TB
T11. Allen, SD
T11. Nelson, GB
13. Garcon, WAS
14. Welker, DEN
15. Cruz, NYG
16. Jackson, WAS
17. Fitzgerald, ARI
18. Harvin, SEA
19. Crabtree, SF
20. Johnson, HOU
21. Edelman, NE
T22. Tate, DET
T22. Floyd, ARI
T24. Patterson, MIN
T24. Wright, TEN
T26. White, ATL
T26. Hilton, IND
28. Nicks, IND
T29. Colston, NO
T29. Maclin, PHI
31. Sanders, DEN
32. Decker, NYJ
33. Williams, DAL
34. Watkins, BUF
35. Wayne, IND
36. Cooks, NO
37. Wallace, MIA
38. Cooper, PHI
T-39. Evans, TB
T-39. Shorts, JAC
41. TSmith, BAL
42. Bowe, KC
43. Jones, CIN
T44. Austin, STL
T44. Dobson, NE
46. Boldin, SF
47. Boykin, GB
T-48. Amendola, NE
T-48. Jones, OAK
T-48. Randle, NYG
51. Benjamin, CAR
T-52. SSMith, BAL
T-52. Wheaton, PIT
54. Matthews, PHI
55. Douglas, ATL
56. Hunter, TEN
57. Jennings, MIN
58. Hopkins, HOU
59. Hartline, MIA
60. Stills, NO

[Hammer]

looking at the wr lists... i definitely overlooked torrey smith. im not high on him regardless, i think stevie will be the possession guy there, and torrey wasnt even really outstandingly productive on deep balls last year... but i could definitely get him in, in that bowe-wallace-amendola range. i also seem to be higher on the rookie wrs than you... especially cooks.

[Witlon]

Yeah, I figured you just forgot Torrey. I think Pitta is going to open up the deep ball for Torrey, and it's not like they have much of a run game if Rice and Pierce are both suspended to start the year.

I don't trust Manuel enough to like Watkins, and there's a ton of mouths to feed in NO(not that I'm doubting, but their #3 WR hasn't been fantasy viable in a couple years). If I'm going risk, I'd probably wait until the end of the draft and take an Andrew Hawkins or Crotchery instead of paying for the hype machine.

[Slyder]

I know this is probably gonna get me laughed at but I would NOT touch Manning with a first round pick. He is quite literally 1 shot away from being DONE and I see way too many similarities between him and Rich Gannon at this point of their careers (coming off of a embarrassing Super Bowl lost). I just have a feeling that its going to be the trend rather than the exception.

[HollywoodLeo]

People have been saying that about him every year for at least the past five years. They'll be right eventually just like they were eventually right about Favre when he was "done" every season.

[Slyder]

People have been saying that about him every year for at least the past five years. They'll be right eventually just like they were eventually right about Favre when he was "done" every season.

I wasn't one of them. I just see so many similarities between the 04 Raiders (who's big FA acquisition was that lazy fat ass Warren Sapp) and 13 Donks. Peyton could come out and light the world on fire. I know one thing... his kicker is going to be at the top of my kicker list. If I'm right I wave the guy for one of the other dozen kickers who aren't drafted.

[Kingdom]

Raider fans are a silly breed.

[Witlon]

I know this is probably gonna get me laughed at but I would NOT touch Manning with a first round pick. He is quite literally 1 shot away from being DONE and I see way too many similarities between him and Rich Gannon at this point of their careers (coming off of a embarrassing Super Bowl lost). I just have a feeling that its going to be the trend rather than the exception.

I'm not laughing at it at all. I've found that legit(Top 14) QBs are available well in to Round 7 and 8 in all of the Mocks I've done.

In yesterdays mock(ESPN), QBs came off the board like this:
1-4: P. Manning
2-14: A. Rodgers
2-24: D. Brees
4-42: M. Stafford
4-47: C. Newton
5-53: A. Luck
5-58: N. Foles
7-79: R. Griffin III
7-80: R. Wilson
7-84: M. Ryan
8-88: C. Kaepernick
8-94: T. Brady
9-100: P. Rivers
9-102: T. Romo

Why grab Manning in the first, when you could legitimately double up with say, Romo and Ryan?

[HollywoodLeo]

But that's not why he was saying he'd pass on Manning.

[Witlon]

But he never said he wouldn't use a 2nd round pick on Manning, even if he's comparing him to Gannon. Just not a first.