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    RFK and Soriano don't exactly go together like white on rice or Stuart Scott and Boo-yah.
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    If Guillen can hit 24 homers in a Nats uniform then Soriano can get 30. I think Soriano can hit more than three homers at RFK unlike Guillen.

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    I'm not counting on Soriano being any better than Guillen at RFK. They put up similar numbers last year, but Soriano's weren't at RFK. He might not do as well as Guillen did last year.
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    Soriano has more pop than Guillen and is a better line drive hitter. Only reason Guillen might do better is because Soriano is protecting him in the lineup. Also, 36 hrs/104 RBI and 24 hrs/74 RBI are not simliar numbers.

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    RBI is a team-dependent statistic. Soriano was in a good lineup. Guillen was in a very bad one.

    Also, Guillen had less talent around him, which hurt his HR ability. Also, the difference between 36 and 24 isn't nearly so big because of the very different venues we're talking about.

    The two had very similar OPS' last year. I think Soriano led by .003 or something. If both had played at RFK last year, Guillen probably would have had a better OPS.
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    I dont like this trade. It doesnt do anything for the Reds but save money. But, it might cost them money b/c I still think people come to the park to watch Griffey. Even at this point in his career.

    I think Sorianos numbers will be fine this year. He will get the luxury of hitting 6 times against Reds pitching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CincyRedsFan30
    RBI is a team-dependent statistic. Soriano was in a good lineup. Guillen was in a very bad one.

    Also, Guillen had less talent around him, which hurt his HR ability. Also, the difference between 36 and 24 isn't nearly so big because of the very different venues we're talking about.

    The two had very similar OPS' last year. I think Soriano led by .003 or something. If both had played at RFK last year, Guillen probably would have had a better OPS.
    Now you are going to try and compare OPSs with Soriano's OBP? Get the hell out of here! Yes RBIs are based on team and blah blah blah. Guillen hit the ball well away from home and Soriano the opposite. Soriano has the bigger bat and his past proves that whether it at Yankee Stadium or in Arlington.

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    The OPS shows how much they both produced.
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    OBP is half of the OPS which shits on Soriano's OPS. OPS isn't everything unless you are Peter Gammons. Soriano is a better RBI and homer guy.

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    Maybe it's just me, but I don't like a guy who put up a .224-.265-.374 line away from Arlington with guys like Blalock, Teixeira, and Young behind him who is moving to one of the worst hitting parks in baseball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishercat
    Maybe it's just me, but I don't like a guy who put up a .224-.265-.374 line away from Arlington with guys like Blalock, Teixeira, and Young behind him who is moving to one of the worst hitting parks in baseball.
    Which proves that he wouldnt fit on the Reds, especially since its for Griffey. This trade is stupid. Lets move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishercat
    Maybe it's just me, but I don't like a guy who put up a .224-.265-.374 line away from Arlington with guys like Blalock, Teixeira, and Young behind him who is moving to one of the worst hitting parks in baseball.
    They were in front of him! Like I pointed out earlier, Guillen didn't do shit at RFK either and still had a decent year. Bonds made RFK look like a sandbox in a few ABs there which makes me think Soriano can do the same with 82 games there. He will do better than Guillen's whopping three!

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    Quote Originally Posted by love_that_reefer
    OBP is half of the OPS which shits on Soriano's OPS. OPS isn't everything unless you are Peter Gammons. Soriano is a better RBI and homer guy.
    You do realize that HR is a key part of the OPS statistic, don't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CincyRedsFan30
    What were you expecting him to have done by now?

    There is nothing to this rumor. Period.
    He certainly hasn't improved the team in any way. He released Hancock, Hudson, Nelson, and Simpson despite the team's total lack of pitching depth. All four of those guys could be competent major leaguers out of the pen, even if they wouldn't light the world on fire. He picked up Timo Perez and Quinton McCracken, both horrible pick-ups. He's all over Scott Hatteberg's nuts. I'd say, if anything, he's made the organization worse, and either way, he hasn't shown anything to make me believe that he's a good GM, and he hasn't shown that to you, either.

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    OPS is just SP+OBP and yes homers help the SP but so do triples and doubles.

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