When Danny Graves goes on the mound, you know you're never assured a victory. That alone should be reason to boot him off the roster ASAP. Saves are saves, but Graves does far more bad to the team than he does good. I can't stand his "who gives a shit?" personality. Both he and Junior are poor, poor examples of team leadership. Neither one is willing to stand up and demand stellar play from his teammates. Is ANYONE on the Reds willing to take a stand and demand the team to shape up or ship out???? Right now I am steaming. This was one really hurts, if you're a fan. I believe this was the final straw for the Reds. They're just not a solid team on either side of the plate. When that happens, bad things happen. What are the Reds in now, sixth place? How's THAT for a $25 million Milton contract? I don't know how Sean Casey catches so many crappy throws in the dirt. If it wasn't for him, this team would be a solid, solid contender for last place in the NL Central. I mean, what the hell is up with all the throws that don't even make it to first base? Jesus, Casey could out-run some of those throws. That's bad baseball, folks. Anyone want to take dibs on how long Dave Miley lasts as manager? I'm thinking he'll be gone at the All-Star break.